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I have a 13yr old boy who is desperate to help me build his first car, a Mk1 gt6. I don't feel comfortable with the thought of letting him loose with a 6 cylinder. Does anyone have any ideas for an easy swap? The obvious is I guess a 1300 spit motor.

Thanks for any suggestions  

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Is the GT6 engine no good if it's ok keep it as there is not much power in a 1300 for a GT6 with it's extra weight. If you have  to rebuild the GT6 engine it's like a 4 cylinder to work on anyway. I rebuilt my GT6 with my son who is 13 years old but was 11 years old when we started that's him standing next to the finished car in my Avatar it's a great thing to do together good luck.

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A 1300 engine and gearbox would fit but be sluggish, anyone remember the 1300 Capri?

Also the insurance would probably be high(er) as it would be a modified car even if the power was downgraded.

Would he settle for a MkI-III Spitfire with a Lenham fastback hardtop?

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No stick with the GT6 MKI and the 6 cylinder engine my lad tells me to look after his car all the time because we spent so much time and care on it he wants it in good condition when he gets to drive it ;D

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Snatchblock, i say you would be better off getting your son a small  ford,peugot,citroen,vauhall style hatch for his first car. the insurance should be lower £1500  :'( :'( and the last thing you want to hear is...Dad i've had a little bump in the Triumph. He will want to show off to his mates, we all did. 8)
Keep the GT6 for yourself and when he has a few years under his driving belt, then let him ENJOY

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Have you ever driven a standard gt6?  They are not that powerful.  in fact i bet they don't have as much power as a fiesta 1.25!

Will he not be more careful with it as he will be part of the resto?  All that work and he may not want to risk bending it.

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Have you ever driven a standard gt6?  They are not that powerful.  in fact i bet they don't have as much power as a fiesta 1.25!

Will he not be more careful with it as he will be part of the resto?  All that work and he may not want to risk bending it.


Actually you'ld be surprised.

2006 1.25 Fiesta
73bhp
0-60 13.6 seconds
top speed 101mph

1970 GT6
104bhp
0-60 10ish secs
Can't find max speed but if a 1500 Spit can do the ton (not that I'd have the balls to do so in mine) a GT6 must be quicker.






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Firebobby, good plan, but here in Norway I can insure the car as a classic, pay no import duty, and generally save myself a ton, plus the GT6 is his car, mine is a '69 lotus elan.

Hugh, how easy was the swap for the fiesta motor? Would love some pictures if you have them, he can always fit the original motor when he can handle/afford it!

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Unless Hugh has been verrrry busy in the garage recently, I think he was being sarcastic, or ironic, or something (we need a special typeface for sarcasm). I want to see him stuff a Bentley engine in there.  ;)

Just because a GT6 has a 6 cylinder engine, it doesn't mean it's a rocket-powered death trap, at least not in standard tune. If you replace the standard rear spring with a later swing spring, it'll make for a nice handling, torquey two-seater. If he's 13 now, you have, say, three years minimum to explain rear wheel drive, oversteer and the consequences of being a lead-footed prat. I wish my father had been so kind!

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Thanks for that Nick. I was in keen and eager mode!  Well it looks as if he gets a straight six. with some suspension mods. Perhaps I should drive it for a year or so to see what I think. Thanks to all for your suggestions, I expect I'll be back with more questions, or at least my boy will!@

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The  easiest thing to dee , is to either limit the throttle travel, either at accelerator end, or the carb end, [ not fully opening ]
or put a rev limiter on it

cost effective, simple as Alexander  says ;) ;)

Marcus

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796 wrote:
The  easiest thing to dee , is to either limit the throttle travel, either at accelerator end, or the carb end, [ not fully opening ]
or put a rev limiter on it

cost effective, simple as Alexander  says ;) ;)

Marcus


I can forsee a posting on here in 4-5 years time by SnatchblockJunior - My GT6 doesn't appear to have much power, and it wont rev over 4000rpm, what could be wrong with it ?

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Firebobby, good plan, but here in Norway I can insure the car as a classic, pay no import duty, and generally save myself a ton, plus the GT6 is his car, mine is a '69 lotus elan.

Hugh, how easy was the swap for the fiesta motor? Would love some pictures if you have them, he can always fit the original motor when he can handle/afford it!


I am sorry snatchblock Nick is quite right I was having a joke at bestquality03 who is Tim.  :B

I will be driving my son around in my GT6 untill he has passed his test at 18 years old that way I hope he will learn to repect the car and drive it as a classic not a modern sports car. So far it looks to be working :)

I hope that I did not offend you and if you need any advice on your rebuild I would be happy to help if I can :)

Good luck with the rebuild cheers Hugh

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KevinR wrote:


I can forsee a posting on here in 4-5 years time by SnatchblockJunior - My GT6 doesn't appear to have much power, and it wont rev over 4000rpm, what could be wrong with it ?


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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KevinR wrote:


I can forsee a posting on here in 4-5 years time by SnatchblockJunior - My GT6 doesn't appear to have much power, and it wont rev over 4000rpm, what could be wrong with it ?


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Thanks guys, for all the suggestions.
Snatchblock junior is already trying to talk me into a supercharger (having seen one at Prescot!)

His dream car is the Mk 1, so I guess that is the starting point.
I have been watching for a while now, but have not been able to find a LHD, even in the US that is a reasonable price, or not completely rebuilt already. Does anyone have any idea just how involved it will be to swap sides on a RHD?

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I would have thought not too much.

Steering rack, column, not sure what interior (dash etc needs changing).

Odds and ends under the bonnet, swap the battery tray, throttle linkage, pedal mounts.

The Spitfire MkI-III dash was built to make either LHD or RHD construction easy. Note sure about the GT6.   :-/

Best to get a proper parts catalogue and see which items are specific.

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I'd have thought that the hardest part would be getting the bits to do it.

It might be worth contacting Chic Doig, as he specialised in importing LHD cars and converting them to RHD, so he may still have some of the LHD bits stashed away incase anyone wanted to do a reverse conversion.

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Kevin R, I have heard of Chic Doig before, but his website has not been updated since 2003, and I never get an answer to calls at his phone in lochgelly, any idea if he has moved?

I/we have been studying the parts catalogue, and it does seem to be "relatively" straight forwards, I was just wondering if there was a "gotya" that I had not thought of. Should be a great chance for the boy (and his father) to do some creative thinking.

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