Davemate Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 My MK1 has the engine that has the "bumps" on the head for the push rods.It also has the breather on the side of the engine.Can I fit a spin on oil filter conversion thing, I have been told by someone that if I want fit the conversion I'll have to loose the breathing system and fit one of the "rocker cover ones"To me it looks like it would fit as the breather goes around the current filter Any thoughts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 Not sure what you mean Dave. Can you stick a pic up of the breather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedTaylor Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 The early type of engine and cast breather.From what I remember with my early saloon was that I simply shoved the conversion plate on with no problems - and that was with the oil filter take off - but had to do some fiddling with position of the filter itself.Just been out to check on the car to make sure I had not changed the breather to the later type - removing the car cover and avoiding the dollops of ice from last years frost. Needless to say I had already removed it at the start of the engine bay restoration 15 years ago and would have to ferret around in the Triumph store shed to find which one was there!However I am pretty sure that I can say (after all this rambling) yes it will fit with a bit of fiddling.Ted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB_Harvey Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 You can fit the spin on filter assembly to your engine with no mods to the breather system . I do recommend you fit one of the newer Mocal adapters with the sprung loaded centre plate with the flat inner seal , these take into account any minor block machining differences . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted November 18, 2012 Author Share Posted November 18, 2012 391 wrote:Not sure what you mean Dave. Can you stick a pic up of the breather?Sorry for the late reply This is what I have I have been told that I may have to remove the breather system to get the spin on filter conversion to fit. To me it's just a simple swap as the breather seems to go around the filter and with the spin on thing the new filter would just hang down and none of the breather system is below the old filter housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB_Harvey Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 As I said ... If goes straight on with no mods required . Also to note is the early Mk1 engine with the breather on the side is the " Wide Bearing small diameter crank " variety .. The sweetest engine of all the 6 cylinder range .... Revs well too especially with a PI cam installed ( 308778 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 DJB_Harvey wrote:.... Revs well too especially with a PI cam installed ( 308778 )He's got one of those. I know the man who sold it to him. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted November 19, 2012 Author Share Posted November 19, 2012 Thanks chaps :)I was hoping to get some bits done to the car today and have a trip to Leicester tomorrow to get a tube bender and pipe notcher, but I got a text last night so I am now working today :(Not sure about tomorrow yet,one lives in hope ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 DJB_Harvey wrote:As I said ... If goes straight on with no mods required . Also to note is the early Mk1 engine with the breather on the side is the " Wide Bearing small diameter crank " variety .. The sweetest engine of all the 6 cylinder range .... Revs well too especially with a PI cam installed ( 308778 )Yes it does, got the early engine with the PI cam and on the Rev scale of 0 to bonkers its always well beyond bonkers. They also maintain superb oil pressure. As mentioned earlier in the post, no mods required although I have to admit to shortening the breather pipe on my engine, not that it didn't fit but just for ease of access to the oil pressure pipe I fitted and the oil cooler pipes.You might want to swap out the early rocker cover and breather cap for a later rocker and sealed cap, you can then lead the pipe off the rocker to a catch tank or to atmos underneath the car. Even in fine fettle you do get a little bit of the smell of crank case gases with the early breather cap... although some people seem to like that sort of thing, if you want to give up smoking you could always get a fix in the car now and again.CheersDazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 DJB_Harvey wrote:As I said ... If goes straight on with no mods required . Also to note is the early Mk1 engine with the breather on the side is the " Wide Bearing small diameter crank " variety .. The sweetest engine of all the 6 cylinder range .... Revs well too especially with a PI cam installed ( 308778 )does the same apply to GT6 Mk1 engines? Did the cranks differ on them also, if so when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Yes, and it's in the parts manual.Yours is too late I think... :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzer Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 My early engine is the original that came with the car which is a 65. Does anyone know in which year they changed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 MikeyB wrote:does the same apply to GT6 Mk1 engines? Did the cranks differ on them also, if so when?Yes I think it was the first 5000 Gt6 MkI's, I suspect they made them a real fun car to drive. I remember being impressed with my first MkI 2000 with the early engine.This was an E reg 1967. One of the change over cars, facelift, but still with the upright spare wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB_Harvey Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Also to note is there are 2 different cam followers for these engines , early .687"?? ( if my memorys correct !) and .800" ( Mk2 type ) ... Not sure if you can bore the early small follower type out to the common .800" follower .I think " Early " GT6& Vitesse blocks have a different crank ( bearings are the same though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 my engine is 3249, surprised to discover I don't have a GT6 parts manual in the bookcase :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 no clues on Canley's website, but Rimmers list "early" as being up to KC5000 so looks like I may be lucky? :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 mmmn time to search for a PI cam perhaps ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 mmmn time to search for a PI cam perhaps ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Parts book says upto KC5000E and from KC5001E so you may be OK.Good thing is Vandervell bearings are still available and relatively cheap!Time to go and raid that spare engine down the barn for a camshaft........oh, and you need to update your signature! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 update? I thought I already had - or did I miscount? :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 You have spelt Nachtrit wrong.. :-)The new one is alos a runner, so ought to be on the "runners" list:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Oh bugger, spelt that wrong elswhere and been told off before!GT def not a runner right now - it has a buggered g/box :-/Will need to do a big re-vamp as run out of characters :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 thescrapman wrote:Parts book says upto KC5000E and from KC5001E so you may be OK.Good thing is Vandervell bearings are still available and relatively cheap!Time to go and raid that spare engine down the barn for a camshaft........oh, and you need to update your signature!So that means they're available for my engine (#349 or summit)? Got a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Englishbull Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 1344 wrote:Thanks chaps :)I was hoping to get some bits done to the car today and have a trip to Leicester tomorrow to get a tube bender and pipe notcher, but I got a text last night so I am now working today :(Not sure about tomorrow yet,one lives in hope ;DDo you need a hand getting this Dave?...............Only we travelling down M1 tomorrow to pick up a MK2 PI from Bucks.Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 ferny wrote:So that means they're available for my engine (#349 or summit)? Got a link?Rimmers used to put them on sale regularly, also witor has them.I expect other traders have them, there is not much demand for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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