Mr Elsie Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 noticed this on the canleys website and was wondering where and how this is fitted. There's also an extra windscreen one which again I can't suss out where it goes. Anyone got these fitted?http://www.canleyclassics.com/searchforapart/?ptno=620656http://www.canleyclassics.com/searchforapart/?ptno=620403 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The first one seals between the top of the sill and the botom of the door. Sorry no images as I don't currently have a GT6, many cars lose them entirely when the sills are replaced.The seals on the windscreen frame are often referred to as P-seals, because their cross section is 'P' shaped. They are used on all but the earliest Heralds through to the end of Spitfire production, the following images are of my 1500 Spitfire.The top of the P-seal is almost invisible under the correct lip-profile door seal. If you have the chunky aftermarket seal, usually furflex covered, the P-seal won't fit willingly as the main seal takes up most of the space it needs.Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Under the lip seal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 heraldcoupe wrote:The first one seals between the top of the sill and the botom of the door. Sorry no images as I don't currently have a GT6, many cars lose them entirely when the sills are replaced.I remember seeing one years ago. It fitted into a (spot) welded on channel on top of the sill. Same profile as a door seal channel on a 2000/2.5 or Dolomite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Richard_B wrote:I remember seeing one years ago. It fitted into a (spot) welded on channel on top of the sill. Same profile as a door seal channel on a 2000/2.5 or Dolomite.Don't ever remember seeing one of those, was it GT6 only?CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Heres mine :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bainzy Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Bill, that main door seal on your 1500 Spitfire is a lip seal? Is that original? My main door seal is a tubular type seal, I know it's not original as it isn't furflex type but I thought the rubber bit was at least correct, should it be a lip or a tube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 1381 wrote:Bill, that main door seal on your 1500 Spitfire is a lip seal? Is that original? It's not an original seal, but it's a very close match to the original profile. All spitfires and GT6s had a lip seal as original equipment, though the exact details varied through production. Early ones had a fabric weave covering the grip channels, later ones went to a furry finisher. But never a bubble profile, they're too fat and just stop the doors closing properly,Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Richard_B wrote:I remember seeing one years ago. It fitted into a (spot) welded on channel on top of the sill. Same profile as a door seal channel on a 2000/2.5 or Dolomite..... and the same seal profile, also used on early TR4s,Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainzy Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Thanks Bill, very interesting. To me the herringbone pvc ones just look wrong compared to the furry type, they make the interior feel less cosy.Could you compromise by getting one of these aftermarket furflex ones and cut the bubble profile to make it more like a lip? Would that provide an effective seal, whilst letting the doors close properly?Or better yet, do you have anything accurate in stock or in the pipeline? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molten Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 1381 wrote:Thanks Bill, very interesting. .....Or better yet, do you have anything accurate in stock or in the pipeline? :)Would interest me too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 For cars up to the Mk2 GT6 and Mk3 Spitfire, the original fabric finisher is available and can be stitched/glued to the lip seal. But that's quite an involved task, popular with concours contenders, but rarely done by those of us who use the cars as daily drivers!I've not found a source for the furflex type fabric used on the MkIV/1500 Spitfires and Mk3 GT6, at least not as a narrow strip as we buy other edging fabrics. Big sheets of the material should be easy enough from fabric shops, but that's a pretty expensive and cumbersome way of doing it.I have seen the bubble sections split to allow better door closure, but invariably as a short term measure. It looks scruffy at best, and tends to split from where it's been cut,Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molten Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 royboy66 wrote:Heres mine :)RoyDoes that seal hold water in the door drain holes (if it invaribly gets in there) when shut?Would drain when open I suppose.Do you notice any benefit from it? Curious..Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainzy Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Surprised I never noticed it before, especially as I took this photo as reference to note how the seals extended above the windscreen on hardtop cars like the Spitfire at Gaydon:I'd definitely be prepared to stich/glue fur type fabric myself if you can ever get a hold of some Bill, though for now I think I will have to get some stock of the seal sans-fur from you. Guess I can always take it off the car then add fur to it later if its located. Sending a PM now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 2597 wrote:RoyDoes that seal hold water in the door drain holes (if it invaribly gets in there) when shut?Would drain when open I suppose.Do you notice any benefit from it? Curious..CheersMolten, only thing ive really noticed since fitting the Lower seal is at motorway speeds its less drafty there! ;DNot noticed it holding water after being driven in rain! :)Roy 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 stags have the same extra seal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 Now that looks a good way to reduce draughts, my car has neither seal :oHo hum more things to buy after the 10CR ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 My GT6 had both seals, lost the sill seal when I had them replaced in 1984!Always meant to fit one, don't remember it being as long as the one on Roy's car.Nice one Roy, your GT6 does seem to be getting better as time goes by! Next you will be fitting the chrome finisher to the bottom sill flange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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