dazzer Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 OK what is the secret technique used for fitting new outer door seal rubbers into the steel channel?I've tried, sliding, pushing, levering with screwdrivers, bike tyre lever, feeler gauges... I'm now contemplating divine intervention as the only way forward.Any advice gratefully received.Dazzer
Alex Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 Do you mean the ones on the door itself?Mine just took time and patience......not something I tend to have but it worked for me.I seem to remember helping it in with a pallet knife.....
mikeyb Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 light smear of the old "KY" then starting at a corner take a couple of inches, tuck one side into the channel then use large flat blade screwdriver to tease other side into channel, repeat moving along a few inches at a time. Will take you prob 15-20 mins per door, with rest between moving onto next one to allow your hand cramps and patience recover!
dazzer Posted February 4, 2010 Author Posted February 4, 2010 Thanks guys for the tips.Yes its the outer seal on the doors.Just replaced everything else, window runners, the outer seals on the door glass, front and rear screen seals etc, etc.CheersDarren
GreenV8Machine Posted February 4, 2010 Posted February 4, 2010 aye, i used some fairy liquid. pushed in one end at the top corner joint, placed it round the seal gutter and the other end pushed in up toward the other to hold it roughly in place. Then lead one side of the seal in and flat bladed the other into the gutter.
CRAJ Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 Surely the ideal lubricant for this would be copious amounts of waxoyl or similar. You would then be fairly confident that the the internal parts of metal that the seal is inserted in are protected.Washing up liquid has too much salt in it for me to use anywhere that it can linger and fester.Colin.
mikeyb Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 washing up liquid as Colin said is salt laden and a definite no no. Waxoyl would do the job but as it contains a petroleum based solvent (?) I would worry about it having a detrimental effect on the rubber over time. KY is neutral for obvious reasons . . . . . . . . :P
TedTaylor Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 I use hand barrier cream for fitting any rubber component (!!!) like this - rubber trims, window rubbers, tyres etc. Like 'GT6' I tuck in the start the of rubber, then tuck in every couple of feet for the 'run' that you are doing (top/bottom/side etc.), then go back and finish off with a wide bladed implement otherwise there is a risk that you will put a slight stretch on the rubber so that when you get to the end you have a loop to try to squeeze in. I have also taped the trim into place around the door aperture to make it more manageable. I try to find something that is plastic if I can to push the rubber into the channel and always round off the corners to stop the risk of it digging into the rubber and damaging it.Apart from that it is patience - and warning the missus not to come out and moan about something.......Ted
Tim Bancroft Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 Reckon 15 - 20 mins is optimistic, more like 45 mins a door!I don't use any lub., just a small driver. The original door seals are unotainable, the replacement types are ok but not brill.
Royboy66 Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 timbancroft61 wrote:I don't use any lub., just a small driver. Anyone we know! Richard Hammond? :X(whistle)
2Toledos Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 When I had to do one of mine (many moons ago); I 'borrowed' a dollop of tyre fitting soap from a well known tyre fitting company..... and it just slipped straight in (please resist !) with a little help from one of those plastic blades that came with some body filler.
Ridgetone Triumph Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 [ tyre fitting soap]Arrhhh The secrets out :B
TedTaylor Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 By 'hand barrier cream' I mean the pink stuff you put on your hands before doing greasy work - not the stuff the misses uses ...... on her hands.It is really a more liquid version of what the tyre people use.
Englishbull Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 1526 wrote:By 'hand barrier cream' I mean the pink stuff you put on your hands before doing greasy work - not the stuff the misses uses ...... on her hands.It is really a more liquid version of what the tyre people use.And free from work................
heraldcoupe Posted February 5, 2010 Posted February 5, 2010 timbancroft61 wrote:The original door seals are unotainable, the replacement types are ok but not brill.The one I sell is identical to one of the two original styles. This is the type with a lip, rather than a bubble profile. This is the type originally fitted to Karen's old (late) Mk1 and my old Mk2 (PMW400H). I have seen the bubble type fitted to cars earlier and later than ours, so presumably there were two seal suppliers throughout production.I don't know if what I have is the same as what's available elsewhere. It was sourced directly from an extrusion manufacturer, and was not listed as suitable for a 2000........Cheers,Bill.
TedTaylor Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 LeeFree from work .......... that's the best source!Ted
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