nang Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Sorry, I know this has been discussed before but I can't find anything relevant.Got a new seal from Rimmers but it's almost impossible to fit. Started going around trying to push it into the groove with a blunt screwdriver. It's going to take forever especially around the curved bits.Anyone found a better one ?I tried emailing Bains but they weren't very helpful, suggesting I try Rimmers.Thanks in advance.Tony. Quote
Andy Borris Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 I did all four on my car, used Chris Witor ones.And yes, it did take forever.... Quote
Tim Bancroft Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 I reckon on about 1.5hrs per seal!!PITA! Quote
mikew Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Some silicon lubricant 8) significantly speeds the process, helps it slip into the grove faster, I get them done in about 40 minutes this way, but still my most unfavourite job Quote
piman Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Hello all, I made up a little tool out of some 1/16" steel sheet, broadly a triangular shape but with the base rounded which I roll along the seal. It does about 2" at a time, I suppose a refinement would be to make a wheeled version? Back to a screwdriver for the tight bits of course.Alec Quote
Pete Lewis Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 I ordered SRS 071 from CO Baines came next dayhttp://www.coh-baines.co.uk/even had their local Rep Call round to see how it all worked , the SRS071 is a hard Tee with a sponge profile section, fits around the door C channel in less than 5minutes , 90deg corners need to be cut but seems finethe section is maybe a little larger where the shut gap is tight it can trap the seal lip, but a squirt of silicon solved thatthink this seal is as used on many classics and also TR4 but not listed by Baines at T2000/2500, i did ask them to ammend their listing .if you want some ones that really wont fit I have some in bag going sparePeter Quote
dazzer Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 Sounds like a good idea Pete.I got four door seals five years ago spent a day fitting two... and never fitted the drivers side to this day! Quote
nang Posted November 26, 2014 Author Posted November 26, 2014 Thanks folks, looks like the Baines one is the way to go.I'll measure the length and order one.Tony. Quote
Pete Lewis Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 You need to make sure the C channel has not been closed , nipped to stop seal creep and check the joins where the channel doesnt always seem to line upand wwith a squirt of silicon or some soft soap you can feed the seal around thebwhole door in one go very quickly, the problem with most widely available is the tee to fit the C is a oversize dove tailsection and this is just too much.having a spare pair of mates hands so one feeds and one pulls is an obvious advantage as the snake unrolls.start at the top corner run along the top down the front , round the bend under the dor andnback up to the top corner, cut square or mitre the cornern to suit your preferenceifnthat helpspete Quote
nang Posted November 27, 2014 Author Posted November 27, 2014 Thanks Pete. Channel seems ok. I've ordered a length from Baines.Rimmers one sort of fits along the straight bits but I can't see me getting it around the bendy bits.Tony (angry) Quote
Ridgetone Triumph Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Oh, looks like I will have a job then fitting new rubbers to the 2 dr ??) Quote
CRAJ Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 I did the estate ones whilst in plaster pete, not an easy job, but doable still. I wouldn't use silicon to ease them in with though! I don't need to tell you the effect it has if you want to do any painting in the future.Colin Quote
TedTaylor Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Thanks for the pointer on the Baines ones Pete, just ordered enough for the front doors. Got fed up with the whistling from around the non sealing door seals when the windows and quarter light were closed - nearly drove is mad on the RBRR and we had to leave the front windows open a bit to stop it! ??)MUT Quote
thebrookster Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 Good luck Tony, not a fun job.I have replaced both front doors and the bootlid seals so far in the last couple of weeks, just got the two rear doors to go.Take the door off the car BTW! Far far easier, I did the drivers door in situ and it was a nightmare!Ohh, and welcome to the world of new noises! I am building up a long joblist of bits to fiddle with now I can hear all the rattles!!Cheers,Phil Quote
Ridgetone Triumph Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 We used to stretch the new rubber with brute force and slip it in around the door, never broke one and the secret was to press the rubber together to help it shrink back into itself. Worked well on the genuine factory supplied rubbers, wouldn't try it on used or aftermarket ones. Mind you it didn't save that much time, but when you had a few to do every little helps ;D Where have I heard that before (dizzy) Quote
Pete Lewis Posted November 27, 2014 Posted November 27, 2014 attempted to show the Tee profile and ease of fit.the Tee is a solid neoprene and wornt escape the C channelsorry its a bit ragged in view ,I nearly took the doors off to fit the orig supplied section but having been in truck manufacturing for over 40 years felt there has to be another way this fight is not as designed . Quote
thebrookster Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 Interestingly enough, after I had struggled with the drivers door, I then had occasion to visit Chic Doig's on my way up to Aberdeen.I was speaking to Iain there who has been playing with Triumph's for a fair number of years, and asked him for any tips in fitting the rubbers. He simply waved a large screwdriver at me, and said "I really WOULD like to know how they did these in the factory, they simply can't have used a screwdriver on every car!"My rear doors are still waiting.......................... (though that may have slightly more to do with a lack of 1/2" socket in Aberdeen than unwillingness, I only have spanners here and they don't fit on the bolts on the rear doors!)Cheers,Phil Quote
Pete Lewis Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 in manufacturing in the days these designs were used it was common to make or have made a screwdriver cut down and fitted with a about 25mm penny washer to make a wheel to roll the seal into the 'C' but you need the right profile t do this most of whats out there for sale is some idea of a look alike , they are not like the OE doesnt take much to search the manufactures to find a correct profile , do you realy think on the Trim line that triumph workers would run a piecework payment pool with a door seal fitting that took hours for each door it had to be quick snappy and easy to get it right first time , not faf around poking and prodding let alone taking the doors off after paintbuy the SR 071 from baines and its done in seconds not hours just some ramblings Pete Quote
TedTaylor Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Had a delivery of the seal from Baines yesterday and now to have a go at fitting them .......with a second person to help ....... Gordon where are you!MUT Quote
willows40 Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 I always fit the seals with the doors on the car, about 20/30 min per door. The original ones are a lot quicker and easier to fit than the new oneCheers Andy Quote
josh18 Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 I did mine with the crappy repro ones and a couple of screw drivers. I think the secret is lots of soapy water and just take your time- its not like you will be doing it again any time soon. Are there any straight forward jobs on a 2500 anyway? Quote
Pete Lewis Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 I prefer coffee to soapy water, easier on the body functions ... but have found tyre pressures are pretty simple Ha ! perhaps we need a page of jobs we hate ?Pete Quote
heraldcoupe Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 There were two different profiles used as-original, one with a curved lip as shown below.The second type was very similar, except the lip closed off to form a bubble.I'm surprised by the contempt shown for the reproduced the lip type seal. When I needed some for our cars about a decade ago, I was rather impressed how well it matched against the original profile I sampled against. Not easy to fit, but that's what Autoglym's Vinyl and Rubber Care is so useful for.Cheers,Bill. Quote
cnicholson Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 this was the worst job ever when I did mine a few years ago, i took me about 4 days to do them. the seals where of such a poor quality that they never quite sat right, and now they need doing again as they have snagged in the door. will be trying the seals from baines! Quote
TedTaylor Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 1700 wrote:this was the worst job ever when I did mine a few years ago, i took me about 4 days to do them. the seals where of such a poor quality that they never quite sat right, and now they need doing again as they have snagged in the door. will be trying the seals from baines!Come up and help me fit my fronts ....... we can see how well the Baine's ones work! MUT Quote
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