brakes - mk1 to mk2

[ferny]

Refresh my memory, please. Putting mk2 discs and callipers onto a mk1 (63 built) requires a spacer or new bracket? I used to think it was a straight swap but I'm sure I remember hearing different at least once. Pads are the same though, yes?

[thescrapman]

different hub??

Waiting in anticipation for a correct answer as I need to do the same.

Cheers

Colin

[DGF]

yep you need the mk2 hub..else it fouls the caliper

[lloydpiestate]

seem to remember early pads are diff shape to to later ones ?

[ferny]

In that case, anyone got a couple of hubs kicking around? ;D

[lloydpiestate]

i got some here ferny, just pay the postage boyo

[DJB_Harvey]

You need Mk2/Stag pads in a Mk2 caliper ... Plenty on eBay .

[lloydpiestate]

sorry colin, forgot you needed some too,

you and ferny will have to fight it out between you, as to who gets em  :B

lloyd

[thescrapman]

I've got plenty of Mk2 hubs at hiome.

Now has anyone got any Stag calipers????

I can pinch the discs (were NOS) and calipers off my Mk1 Pi and fit them to the 2000, then the PI can have a Stag brake upgrade.. :-)

[Nick Jones]

thescrapman wrote:

Now has anyone got any Stag calipers????

I asked that a few days back...... didn't get any volunteers though  :(

Nick

[lloydpiestate]

try martin, im sure he will have some, used him for years, top fella. ebay user name is stan-part, i do have his number, if you have no joy, ill check with him its ok to give it out ( i dont give peoples numbers out without checking with them first, its a rule of mine )    

[TedTaylor]

When I built AFH as a 'period replica' rally car in 1981/82 I wanted to keep the original Mk1 braking system to keep it within the 'everything 1964/65' as far as I could.  This meant original calipers and original size (thin) discs.
I reasoned that more meat around the hub mounting points would give more 'heat soak' effect and help reduce the onset of overheated brakes and to this end I bought a pair of brand new Mk2 discs and had the disc part machined to Mk1 specification.  They then bolted onto the original hubs as direct Mk1 replacements.

I am sure my 'theory' worked to a point because I thrashed the old girl round a number of race circuits (Silverstone, Brands, Donnington) having access in my role as Chairman of the late Association of Historic Motor Sports Clubs and the brakes stood up to my spirited (aka hairy) driving well.  Not saying that an upgrade to Mk2 would not have been better but mod worked within the limits that I wanted.

[TedTaylor]

Nick_Jones wrote:

I asked that a few days back...... didn't get any volunteers though  :(

Nick

Much sought after and usually snapped up when they come up for sale if they are any good.

[lloydpiestate]

had a chat with martin last night, he has one pair of calipers if anyones interested, martins number 07766240959

[ferny]

5005 wrote:

i got some here ferny, just pay the postage boyo

That'd be splendid. Let me know how much and how you want paying and I'll drop you my address.


edit - I'm doing this because my brakes used to grab on the n/s/f and when I investigated found the inside of that disc was heavy grooved. There's no way it'd be reclaimable as they're so deep and smooth - must have been like it for thousands of miles! I've got the mk2 callipers and discs already.

I was reading the 2000 register notes folder yesterday and Mr Witor didn't recommend "upgrading" to Stag brakes.

[DJB_Harvey]

I've got plenty of Nos early brake discs and personally with a very early car like yours I'd keep it original .

[lloydpiestate]

hi ferny,

ill go and dig them out for you ( prob this wk end now ).
i wont know the postage untill i post them, around the £15 mark id guess, ill send em rec del.
just pay me via paypal once you recieve them.
drop me your address boyo.

lloyd

[Nick Jones]

Stag calipers captured......

Nick

[thescrapman]

Nick_Jones wrote:

Stag calipers captured......

Nick

Is anything else fitted with the same calipers as a Stag?

The same seal kit fits 1980's Transits and Sherpas apparently, but that is not tp say the caliper is the same one.

Cheers

[Nick Jones]

Some Rover SD1 also apparently - but again it is unclear whether whether the caliper body/mounts are the same.

Nick

[Nick Jones]

Good ol' Ebay.  Â£ 22 delivered for a pair of used Stag calipers.  And they are actually a pair, castings intact and the bleed nipples move........

Dunno about the pistons yet, but they'll do as exchange core if nothing else.

Who's best for discs and repair kits?

Nick

[Richard B]

I have'nt checked the prices but LD Parts sells good quailty stuff.

http://www.ldparts.co.uk


and he's a Stag enthusiast.