Velocita Rosso Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Recently , I`ve been experiencing more and more drivers not using indicators. Yes its always happened , but seems to be getting worse. Also the electric car driver using their car like the old dodgems , by just planting their accelerator pedal to the floor, approaching other cars at speed. One `leccy car today entered the waste disposal site at such a speed, they were clinging on to the wheel and pulling it over through a 90 degree entrance at about 30mph. Is it me experiencing such things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 No indicators? Are BMW selling more then? And EVs - of course an electric motor has full torque from zero revs. They will getting used to the quicker response time. Think of it as evolution in action! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted October 27 Author Share Posted October 27 2 hours ago, JohnD said: No indicators? Are BMW selling more then? And EVs - of course an electric motor has full torque from zero revs. They will getting used to the quicker response time. Think of it as evolution in action! More like...accidents waiting to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianb Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I’m a fully Qualified BackSeat Driver and I can say that Numpty Drivers have always been there, But Since a a certain Advisor “DC” who thought it a good idea to Drive the Lengh of Britain to Test his eye sight! Loads of Sheep minded people have followed his example and standards! I was going to get my Wife to walk in front of my car when it’s ready holding a Red Flag! Warning people that that I can’t See! But it would take me all day to get out of the Garage! So Bus pass at the ready! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyf Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 I reckon driving standards have plummeted recently. I regularly see people going through red traffic lights, it's a daily occurrence at one of the Roundabouts on the A38 at Derby on my daily commute to work. Things will only get worse🫣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutty Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 (edited) Modern cars are a major contribution to poor driving standards. Automatic braking, adaptive cruse control, lane guidance, all these systems take the control away from the driver and turn them into glorified passengers. I drive 30k a year in my modern for work and I can definitely tell my driving standards do drop in the modern. The problem with new cars is many of these systems cannot be deactivated, infact if you deactivate some of them it can invalidate you insurance. I also find it takes all the fun out of driving and sadly this is the future. Thank heaven's for my classics and some real enjoable driving. Edited October 28 by Rutty 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 28 Share Posted October 28 My sister's car, a modern, reminds you every time that, "Driving this vehicle is the responsibility of the driver" Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hunt Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 18 hours ago, garyf said: I reckon driving standards have plummeted recently. I regularly see people going through red traffic lights, it's a daily occurrence at one of the Roundabouts on the A38 at Derby on my daily commute to work. Things will only get worse🫣 Not only that Gary, what about the number of impatient drivers at traffic lights who start on red and amber, not waiting for green (see my CC in the next magazine). Tim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 39 minutes ago, Tim Hunt said: Not only that Gary, what about the number of impatient drivers at traffic lights who start on red and amber, not waiting for green (see my CC in the next magazine). Tim Maybe that's why lights here go straight from red to green, reduces the risks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVD3500 Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 My daughter passed her test last year in December. She passed the theory fine but failed the practical test twice. The first time was kind of her fault. In a small village going up a steep climb a car that had been parked leapt out of its parking space on the right and the came to the intersection more or less at the same time. Because she had not seen the car moving before approaching the intersection she panicked and drove through and of course took the right of way from the other driver and failed. The second time was totally bizarre. The tester gave her a stern look because will turning left at a traffic light controlled intersection the person going straight opposite her took so dang long that the light turned yellow after she had entered the intersection (it is a slightly odd intersection because the opposite traffic's stop line is a good 3 meters behind the actual intersection to allow buses to get round the corner). It may have been red for all of a millionth of a second.... He failed her though because after driving for over an hour (by law the test is not supposed to last more than 50 minutes) she went back to the parking lot where the test started and right in front of her two cars collided (one backed out of a space and another was coming at her). She stopped and pulled over. He failed her because he said she should have seen this coming and never gone into the parking lot in the first place. Last I checked precognition was not a very common trait. Anyhoo.... once she did get her license I made sure we wen tout in all kinds of weather and the dead of night, low sun in the morning or evening etc. When we did get snow for all of 20 minutes we rushed to large parking lot and I showed her under- and oversteer and she practiced (at one point a guys in a Yaris did 3 donuts around us.... :-)) They didn't even learn about these concepts (maybe they were taught the "theory" but nothing else). There is an ADAC test track within 10 km of here where you can simulate all these conditions. It is never even offered... She once told me I was not following the "rules" when I pulled slightly in behind a parked car to let another car coming the other way pass. As luck would have it said driver was messing about on a mobile and crossed the middle line. I honked. My having moved over kept us from having a collision.... You can be in the right but be wrong at the same time--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 There used to be a County operated 'skid school' near me. Old low powered cars,with purposely bald tyres, a smooth tarmac square with water sprinklers. You could book it, individually or as a group, and I took my department there several times. Excellent instruction, from professionals. Then some yoofs got in one night, trashed the cars and the venue. County couldn't afford to set it up again, and it died. Very sad. Joh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutty Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 58 minutes ago, DVD3500 said: going up a steep climb a car that had been parked leapt out of its parking space on the right and the came to the intersection more or less at the same time. Anyhoo.... once she did get her license I made sure we wen tout in all kinds of weather and the dead of night, low sun in the morning or evening etc. When we did get snow for all of 20 minutes we rushed to large parking lot and I showed her under- and oversteer and she practiced (at one point a guys in a Yaris did 3 donuts around us.... :-)) They didn't even learn about these concepts (maybe they were taught the "theory" but nothing else). There is an ADAC test track within 10 km of here where you can simulate all these conditions. It is never even offered... In my previous job I used to go into the driving standards agency collage near Bedford. This is where they teach the police instructors, fireman, ambulance and the driving test instructors plus other agencies from all over the country. They told me several years ago they wanted to make the driving test more like getting a pilots license where you would have to log a 40 hours driving with a qualified instructor. In various conditions, day, night, rain ice/snow before you could put in for your test. But they did not think the public would accept it as the cost of getting you license would sky rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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