Alex Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I need some rear seatbelts for my 2000.Anybody know of a cheap source?Failing that anyone got any they dont need?I need to sort this for the RBRR as my dad and brother are coming to share the driving and fuel costs.Thanks Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sorbington Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I can get them from the local Unipart motor factors for about £30 each. They even knew what a Triumph 2000 was.Rimmers or Chris Witor can probably supply them too. May be worth a look in the scrappies if all else fails.I guess you know that all the mounting points are already there.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahtuning2000 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Is it possible to get a rear belt which is safe for me to transport my 6 month baby in the rear?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hi Alex,I've been planning this too - you know what they say about great minds. ;DBe interesting to hear what folks have in their cars. I've only seen one set fitted in a saloon. This had a lap belt in the middle seat and 2 inertia reels at the sides. The reels bolted into the nuts welded to the inner arch and sat just under the seat base - but it was pretty tight for space.I wonder if the reels would be better on the parcel shelf? Not sure if the orientation matters for them to work ok though. I was going to try the scrappy but haven't got round to it yet. i was thinking Ford Escort.Static belts might be less hassle. Static belts would be fine for your baby seat sahtuning2000. You can get them nice and tight - we used to take the twins in the Mini sometimes when they were tiny.I also hate lap belts and I wonder if anyone has fitted a 3 point belt in the middle? It would need a nut and reinforcing plate welded onto the parcel shelf. Not sure if the shelf would want strengthening right across too?Be good to hear what other people have done.Cheers,Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sorbington Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 On a saloon, the mounting points are already there, the reels bolt into threaded holes in the parcel shelf. If you get the correct belts they should take about 10 mins each to fit.I currently have one inertia reel belt in the back of my saloon. I need to sort the crappy repair to the lower mounting point in the rear wheelarch on the other side before I can fit the other belt..........A centre 3 point belt would require a little more thought.For transporting babies, you need a Citroen Picasso or some other tall wobbly MPV thing apparantly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I've got one static in the back of mine - if anyone has or sees a Britax Excelsior static belt then please let me know! Can't find a matching one anywhere... (apart from a mint pair that were on ebay for £100!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenderson Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Static seat belts are a pain to use and often are not adjusted correctly, which can have nasty consequences in a crash. They are also more likely to get damaged e.g. by getting trapped in a door. Far better to use retractor seat belts.Most child seats, baby seats and booster cushions will work with any decent 3 point belt without problems - so no need to swap your Triumph for a wobbly MPV.I wouldn't even attempt to fit a 3 point belt unless anchorages are already provided. The rear parcel shelf of a 2000 is nowhere near strong enough in the middle. A poorly installed 3 point belt is worse than a properly intalled lap-only belt, provided it is properly adjusted.Rimmers, Chris Witor and the others probably get their seat belts from Securon, who supply most of the classic car trade: www.securon.co.ukYou can order direct from them but might be more costly.Steve H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You can't transport a 6 month old without a proper child seat. And fitting one of those on a static belt is a NIGHTMARE. Trust me - been there, done that. Try and fit inertias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Caroline wrote:You can't transport a 6 month old without a proper child seat. And fitting one of those on a static belt is a NIGHTMARE. Trust me - been there, done that. Try and fit inertias.We never had any problems in safely fitting forward or rearward facing child seats in Heralds and 2000s with static belts. The "trained" employees at child seat centres are often useless even when dealing with modern applications, no chance of them helping with a static belt. The seat manufacturers however, Britax in our case, provided pretty decent instructions on static installations with their products. Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fogothdon Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Our mk1 came with rear seat belts fitted by a previous owner. Cannot find a makers name, but as Sorbs says, the mounting holes are already there.Hope these help, Donald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 Thanks Donald I guess I'm just going to have to have a butchers in the breakers and see what'll fit.Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark spit Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Do a google for a company called Securon. They made the inertia reels I fitted in my 2000 when I got it. I used them to fit two Britax child seats in the back. When I stuck the child seats in they fitted better by crossing the stalks to the opposite side beltThe securon belt reels have a little adjuster on the side that allows the reel to be fitted horizontally or vertically, if you get one from a scrappy then it must be fitted in the same orientation else it may not work when needed.Better to shell out for a new set as your life may depend on them, you never know whats happened to a belt in a scrapper.Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 mark_spit wrote:Better to shell out for a new set as your life may depend on them, you never know whats happened to a belt in a scrapper.MarkThanks Mark I do agree with you about buying new, however I've checked securons web site and they were very expensive.At the moment I cant afford to shell out to much more on this car.I do appreciate that you cant put a price on life but if I spend much more the wife'll kill me :PAlex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I'm not sure I even trust belts that come in the car - my 1500's inertia belt broke when I was rear ended. Seemed to work ok up to then - stopped when you yanked on it etcHaving your upper lip smashed against your gums with enough force to make lots of bits of skin split is rather painful. Having your gums stitches up with the needle going from front to back was scary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sorbington Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 When you buy a second hand car you buy second hand seat belts. If you take belts from a scrap car, provided you fit them in the same orientation, they lock correctly and the car isn't a crumpled wreck, you should be OK.Check for sick on the seat belts though. As a lad, I travelled in my mates Dad's Granada. I went to put my seat belt on but as I did so, my mate, his Mum and Dad all yelled NOOOOOOOO!!!!! It turned out that someone had been sick on the belt a few weeks earlier and that as a result, they didn't use it. Despite having been cleaned, it still smelt a bit funny............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sorbington Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 jcarruthers wrote:I'm not sure I even trust belts that come in the car - my 1500's inertia belt broke when I was rear ended. Seemed to work ok up to then - stopped when you yanked on it etcHaving your upper lip smashed against your gums with enough force to make lots of bits of skin split is rather painful. Having your gums stitches up with the needle going from front to back was scary!Hmm, ignore what I just said, especially if the belts have sick on them........ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Alex wrote:I do appreciate that you cant put a price on life but if I spend much more the wife'll kill me Very nicely put Alex. Life's full of these wee ironies. And a series of compromises I find, guided by trying to make the best of what resources are available!I like the look of those belts fogothdon.So the questions I have are:1. What cars are we likely to find in the scrappy that have a horizontally mounted inertia reel?2. For me who's wanting a middle 3 point belt - how much strengthening do you reckon the parcel shelf would need to be strong enough to take a seatbelt anchor point? The edges are strong enough. I wonder if a t-shaped brace made from 1" box section would do the trick? A school friend was victim of an accident wearing a lap belt and I reject their usefulness completely knowing what her injuries were.3. What's the thread pitch of the seat belt mounting bolts so new bolts can be sourced?Cheers,Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitesse2l Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I fitted securon belts in my 1970 2000 a few years back.I would add that you might inspect the wheel arch ie remove any underseal and paint. Rust can creep in. (Also, any blanking bolt with underseal on will be a pig to remove).Don't know the thread size...You might have a bolt already sat in the arch mount to check. The ones in the securon kit fit right in.Cheers, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Canley's do these belts for just short of £38.Guess I'd better grovel to the wife and check availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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