Radders Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 thescrapman wrote:Well it seems I broke the PI on Monday , I suspect the strain of hauling 3 fat blokes and a mountain of luggage down the LeMans and back again (but with added ill-gotten gains on the way back) was too much for it.I share your pain sincerely..........A rolling road session at Mowatts yesterday confirmed my suspicions and that my newly rebuilt engine has some serious rumbling noises of the big end variety!(Just for info, It recorded 109 bhp at the rear wheels, but they didnt want to take it over 5000 revs because of the rumbling!)Engine removal(Again!) is planned over the next few days :(I'd better not sell the estate just yet! :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve28 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Still got nowt done yet, what with the weather and other stuff going on.......at this rate i might have to use the 2000 instead of the sprint or 1500tc.steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky_spit Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 391 wrote:I share your pain sincerely..........A rolling road session at Mowatts yesterday confirmed my suspicions and that my newly rebuilt engine has some serious rumbling noises of the big end variety!(Just for info, It recorded 109 bhp at the rear wheels, but they didnt want to take it over 5000 revs because of the rumbling!)Engine removal(Again!) is planned over the next few days :(I'd better not sell the estate just yet! :-/Oh dear, that's not good news. Oddly enough, when you were behind me a few Wednesdays ago, going round the Dengie, I thought I heard rumbling/knocking behind me but thought it couldn't be you as you'd just had a freshly rebuilt engine. I assume it's going back to Carlow's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted July 12, 2012 Author Share Posted July 12, 2012 sparky_spit wrote:Oh dear, that's not good news. Oddly enough, when you were behind me a few Wednesdays ago, going round the Dengie, I thought I heard rumbling/knocking behind me but thought it couldn't be you as you'd just had a freshly rebuilt engine. I assume it's going back to Carlow's?I'm not sure who it's going to yet. I have spoken to Carlow's regarding the rumbling noise, but the response I've had hasn't exactly filled me with confidence nor trust. Once the engine's out and the sump is off and I know exactly what the problem then I can decide my course of action. For the time being, the estate will have to be kept as a RBRR back up car. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnicholson Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Test drive number 1 completed at the weekend, took the PI to the lakes for a 600 mile shake down....... the overdrive packed up, and I had an air locked injector, kwik call to Dave Saunders diagnosed the box to be a blocked filter in the overdrive, so did a mid way pit stop via friends garage to unblock the filter, this meant I had a full range of gears again.The fuel consumption was alarming with no O/D. a lot better with the overdrive, just need to train the fiancée to keep of the loud pedal..... The Porsche driver nearly SH=t his pants when he saw a PI in his mirror waiting to get past, I need to fix my speedo too as the speedo reads 75 / 80 but the tom tom said more than enough to leave my trailing friend in his golf bluemotion standing??? it begs the question what sort of monster is the PI at full tilt. Really impressed with the car, the oil cooler and kenlowe fan really helped keep it at a nice constant temp on the journey too.Bring on the RBRR.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Engine now out and sitting on the workbench. (Thanks to Davemate for his help)My gut feeling is that it's more likely the small ends/cam/followers side of things, rather than the big ends or mains, but time will tell. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 Not a good find. These have lasted less than 2000 miles. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 391 wrote:Not a good find. These have lasted less than 2000 miles. :(Trust us to pick the only good one when we checked !I wonder how the engine builder will try and wriggle out of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 1344 wrote:Trust us to pick the only good one when we checked !I wonder how the engine builder will try and wriggle out of this.To be honest Dave, I have lost total faith and trust in them and might not even bother taking it back to them. Sure, they'll probably do it all under guarantee, but will I end taking the engine out yet again two months later? I will have a good think before I make my decision. :-/I wont tell you the make of the bearing manufacturer outright, just that most of live in one and we have to go through as many of them as possible on the HCR. Now I've given you enough clues here so make them COUNT.You with me? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Is it really the bearings fault? I have County bearings in my 2 litre and its fine. I'm sure there are lots of other 2.5s that have done more than 2000 miles with County bearings.Much more likely to be the machining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I suspect Steves bearings are the Tin/ally ones rather than the tri-metal.Crank is alledgedly still on STD's.Very careful measuring needed I think.CheersColin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky_spit Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 thescrapman wrote:I suspect Steves bearings are the Tin/ally ones rather than the tri-metal.Crank is alledgedly still on STD's.Very careful measuring needed I think.CheersColinI don't think they can be. If they were tin/alloy ones you would not see the copper. Only tri-metal ones will wear through to the copper like this?If they are on standard size, then yes, they will need very careful measuring as something is definitely not right here.Steve - I've got a set of 4 micrometers going from 1" to 4" if you want to borrow them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 391 wrote:To be honest Dave, I have lost total faith and trust in them and might not even bother taking it back to them. Sure, they'll probably do it all under guarantee, but will I end taking the engine out yet again two months later? I will have a good think before I make my decision. :-/At least get them to supply any new bits you need,Bearings and a full gasket set should be a minimum.Why should you have to pay,your choice if you don't want them to assemble it.I don't think I would let them near it, I would ask for a donation towards the cost for someone else to put it back together though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 jcarruthers wrote:Is it really the bearings fault? I have County bearings in my 2 litre and its fine. I'm sure there are lots of other 2.5s that have done more than 2000 miles with County bearings.Much more likely to be the machining?I suspect not, but finding four of the six conrods loose wouldn't have helped! Also, the bearings with the most excessive wear don't seem to fit the caps properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ah, ugly...... What about the mains?Standard bearings on a reground crank? Big ends of con-rounds not round? Insufficient oil reaching them? You have to remove ALL oil-way plugs and the oil-pump drive bush to be sure the oil ways are clean. Do you have an oil pressure gauge, where is it connected and what was it reading? Also possible they just fitted a new oil pump and it's one of the crappy ones that doesn't actually pump much......Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 Nick_Jones wrote:Ah, ugly...... What about the mains?Standard bearings on a reground crank? Big ends of con-rounds not round? Insufficient oil reaching them? You have to remove ALL oil-way plugs and the oil-pump drive bush to be sure the oil ways are clean. Do you have an oil pressure gauge, where is it connected and what was it reading? Also possible they just fitted a new oil pump and it's one of the crappy ones that doesn't actually pump much......NickDont know about std bearings on a reground crank Nick. Lots more investigation and measuring to do. The mains are fine. No marks or scores at all. The oil pump was the one that was in there already and is a CW blue printed item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 391 wrote:Dont know about std bearings on a reground crank Nick. Lots more investigation and measuring to do. The mains are fine. No marks or scores at all. The oil pump was the one that was in there already and is a CW blue printed item. That's all rather odd then........ Hope my new ones (done about 15 miles so far) last alot longer than yours!!Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted July 18, 2012 Author Share Posted July 18, 2012 Engine going back to the people who built it tomorrow for further investigation. Will update when I know more. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I've eventually got the TR in my garage yesterday so work will now start...... :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 ordered some parts yesterday, they should hopefully all be here by the weekend so work proper can begin. :) 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kato Dolomite Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 391 wrote:While the RBRR fever is among us I thought I'd start the usual thread. So come on, who's got what to do????? :)I'll start it off. First choice car (yellow Peril)Cure the vibration on the nearside front that comes in at 30-40mph while accelerating and deceleratingCure the vibration that occurs everywhere at 70mphfit new tyres all round after knackering them on the Get a new car by the sounds of things!fit a CD playerReplace shock absorbers (and maybe springs too?)fix power steering leakfinish eradicating the rust (the bits you can see anyway ;))finish body work and respray.I'm sure there will be other bits that will break or fall off in between now and next October so I'll just add them to the list as I go along. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Wilson Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 The TR heading into the garage last weekend. Plan to get few jobs done this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Well things went from bad to worse, i broke the backup car on Wednesday, Diff gone in that as well, only worse!Came off the A12 and a banshee came wailing up behind us... :-(Suspected no oil in diff, confirmed when I got home and smelt the grass where it had been parked.Seems the new oil seal didn't last very long.. :-(So for the first time in many years I become "working Triumph-less" as the gearbox in the Spitfire failed going to the Autosolo.:-( :-(Been out in the garage starting the repairs on teh Spitfire, and got 17 days off work, so should see some progress... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Team 22 Quack Quack ! RBRR prep started........... M.O.T'd it ! ;DNeed to do sound check...see if the speakers will take Bruce's Thumping Country&Western CD's ??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 The trip to CLM proved that the old Saloon needs some attention:UJs to Prop.Finally get the throttle linkeage sorted-this has been a pita since purchase in '94.Tune the carSort out some of the rust that is starting to show its ugly head. Usual places: NSR wheel arch and NSF wheel arch.Dashboard wiring bodgeOtherwise just make the car look smart.Only used the 2.5 for one of my 7 RBRR completions, found the event relatively easy in her. That explains why 33% of the cars taking part are big saloons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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