BrendanD Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 OK, suggestions please.My car as currently set up has an oil cooler with braided hoses and a thermostat in line, black painted metal engine valances (the louvred ones) and a Facet electric pump fixed to the valance opposite the place for the mechanical pump. The rest of the fuel line is standard. A garage fixed this there after I left the car with them for a week to sort the car on a RR (and it wasn't getting enough fuel from the mech one). The mech pump fixing is blanked off.Two problems:1. The Facet is horribly noisy... tap tap tap tap.... as soon as it gets warm.2. In order to get at the oil filter to unscrew it, I'd have to remove the fuel pump.... as there just isn't space to get a hand down there.So I now have a Hulco to fit, which is bigger than the Facet, plus a land rover inertia switch. I've also got plenty of fuel line both metal and rubber. So where have people mounted their engine bay electric pumps and how have they routed their lines?I have Stromberg carbs with forward entry for fuel and a brake servo taking up space next to the battery on the bulkhead.Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esxefi Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 personally I would mount it by the tank.it will stay cooler and most pumps have more than enough pressure to feed su's and strombergs(the main reason that a facet gets fitted and is noisy is because the pump pressure means the needle valves are fighting to close)when I had a facet pump I fitted a regulator before the carbs and also a feed back to the tank after the carbs so any excess fuel didn't hang around in the hot engine bay,the pump ran quiet as they should do in normal operation. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 x 2, ^^^^^what he says. Only down side is having to run power back there. Everything else is a win.Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTRoger Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Fitted mine also in the boot, or actually it's located in the rear wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanD Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 I have the 2.5PSI square Facet so it won't be over pressure, just noisy. Still too noisy for the boot.The Hulco is a suction pump and not designed to be boot mounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hi Brendon the Huco can go anywhere. I had mine just under the bulkhead opposite side of the steering shaft seal. Pictures speak a thousand words so I will find one in a second.Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 One Huco pump, I could hear it only when it primed when I turned the key with the engine not running as soon as the engine started I could just hear engine.Power through a fuse.Mounted to the tub.I used a piece of old inner tube to insulate the pump from the metal surfaceand two m8 bolts. The mounting bracket is plastic so I would think it would insulate the pump noise.Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I have mounted my Huco in exactly the place that you have your Facet, not aware of any noise. A painless installation.These Huco pumps are designed to be mounted in the engine bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanD Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 OK, would be easiest, just have to disconnect once in a while to get down and change the filter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don cook1 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Is their too much heat from the engine block to mount a Huco to a fuel pump blanking plate? Also where do you take the 12v feed from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I have a Huco in the saloon as well, this is mounted of the blanking plate and extended over using a piece of 40mm wide ali strip. Again, no problem.I need to post some photos.I have taken my power from the coil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don cook1 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 My GT6 suffers a fair bit from fuel starvation when abroad in extreme heat. I've often thought about insulating the fuel pipes but what I have seen available looks crap. However, I recently saw a 1920s Bentley and was impressed by the fuel lines...until I realised that they were sleeved by 'shower hose'. Now given that these dissipate heat getting out, they must do the same for heat getting in i.e. insulating the fuel from external heat. When I get around to it I'll report back.Now, back to the subject - where can I get a fuel pump blanking plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Don,Make one using a gasket as a template, or from Moss-very cheap!Why not route the fuel pipe using the bulkhead etc? I have seen a couple of cars with the Huco fuel pump mounted on the bulkhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydP Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 For the blanking plate I found the size to be the same as the one used on a mini and theses are available for a couple of quid complete with gasket from eBay.My fuel pump is similar to the Huco type and was robbed from the stag the night before the last rbrr as the mechanical one failed. I clamped it next to the battery and as it was fine for a couple of thousand miles I've just left it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Hi Don you wont get any fuel starvation with the huco as as soon as the fuel evaporates it is replaced by more. The car will also run cooler as it will run richer as the fuel is colder. Don't bother with the tin foil crap just by a huco pump and be done with it.Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Floyd,Is that a 123Tune dizzy? If so how have you found it? I have a 123 in my saloon, thinking about the programmable type for the GT6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydP Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Yes Tim, I finally gave up on the delco so hopefully the ignition problems that have plagued the car for many years will have been eradicated. I'm really happy with the 123tune I've not had much opportunity to play with the tuning side of it. I did try getting my 10 year old daughter to tweak it with the laptop whilst on a run but she somehow erased the map which brought us to a halt and it had to be reloaded. Currently it's running the standard gt6 mk1 ignition curve and the change from the old distributor is incredible loads more oomph all through the rev range with no hesitation at all. Feels like a whole load of power has been released, it's using more fuel though but as I'm going a good deal quicker so I suppose it's to be expected.Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanD Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 As I have a brake servo there is no room on the bulkhead by the battery. I may investigate moving it forward on the engine valance to sit beneath the alternator, or finding a bracket and mounting it off the blanking plate has has been suggested. I have some rubber insulating mounts from the facet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Brendan,I have not found it necessary to rubber mount the Huco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS211083 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Brendan, I think the best position was were I had the pump below the bulkhead on the passenger side there is a flat panel that it fits perfectly. It also means less wiring and I also wouldn't mount it on bobbins. The plastic bracket is perfect for the job. Trust the Germans.Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Enjoying this thread as I'm also interested in this Huco pump. My GT6 suffers in similar conditions as Dons ! :oRoy 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanD Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 OK Chris, I'll have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainzy Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 When I had carbs I used to use one of these mounted to the inner rear wing with an exhaust bobbin: http://www.webcon.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=48Couldn't hear it whatsoever during operation, and still can't now that it's being used as a feeder pump for my high pressure EFI pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Fitted a Facet under the bonnet in my Cortina. Mounted it on a plate with the rubber mounts supplied. Only noise is the ticking when I first turn the ignition on.Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uksnatcher Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 1500 spit, Facet pump with pro-flow regulator rubber mounted next to clutch master cyl, ignition fed relay and inertia switch off a Mondeo mounted to center dash gearbox frame.Just re-piped with R9 rated fuel pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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