Hi Smithy, Thx for your input (although I have plenty of matches ta). Thats what I thought, but what else can be done or what is wrong to create such a rich mixture? Was thinking of a liquid prize consumed pref. in my garage while either putting things right or waiting for the fire brigade!!! See if I get any more answers yet tho. BTW the needles, should they be fixed firmly or like mine, held but are wobbly!!!!! Regards all, J