Thanks Alec I like period touches like that. As a further update I tested the lights last night and luckily living in the sticks 'Up North' was pretty much on my own so plenty of time to fiddle. Whatever is written about lighting there is no comparison to actually getting out and about on country roads with ups, downs corners etc. So the verdict is that with dipped and mains on together there is noticeably more coverage than just mains or dipped which is reassuring when going over the brow of a hill, the dipped illuminates down a little over the dip and also gives general peripheral lighting. I'm using Cibie upgrades on the dipped/main (outers) and all lighting is separately relayed so no problems with current/draw. You can get the same effect on a MK1 (or on mine anyway before the switch and new loom mod) if you pop your mains on and then use the flash, as it lights up dipped as well. Rally escorts used to mod the lighting to bring up dipped and mains together in the day and many moderns keep the dipped and mains on together. My 08 Vectra being one that does. Cheers Dazzer