THANK YOU VERY MUCH,that number confirms what someone else has recently told me.i thought it seemed alot to me as when i put mine on a flat surface and leveled the front it was only 8 inches.must have been something wrong .i am not putting a different front on the old frame i am putting a new front on a new frame.lol i have built a new frame from 2x3x.125" box steel.this a custom frame and will hold a 347 ford stroker,corvette diff,custom front and rear wishbone suspension,coilover shocks etc,etc,etc.i am just at the part of the build where i have to put the bumper mount on and needed the lost dimension.once again i thank you very much .another fellow on the net in the states also gave me that measurement but seeing as how i couldn't confirm it was correct i needed a second opinion. now i can get on with the build(woot)(woot)