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Tim Guilty and very happy about it! Wow, what an entry already. Derek

Quite right. It still is. I did it fourteen times and would do so again if I wasn't so bloody old and decrepit! Derek

In most - but not all - areas of the UK Esso Supreme contains no ethanol, so I grasp the expense nettle  and use it in both the TR4 and Herald 12/50. I check with Esso at intervals to make sure that this is still the case Derek

As an organiser of the RBRR from 1966 to 2002 I can fully sympathise with Tim because there have always been entrants binding about their awards. The task of dealing with the sheer volume of boxes of tankards and other items is just mind boggling. Perhaps one of those members making various suggestions might like to volunteer to join the organising team solely to deasl with the awards? No? Derek Pollock

No! Why not join us, you know it makes sense and then you can shop for things including the lovely sun visor strip..........

The only problem I have is getting more members to display those useful Club Triumph sun visor stickers, especially useful recently when the sun is in your eyes below the visor. They are available from the Club Shop - come on now, you know you want one!

As has become customary over the years, the 2018 charity will be selected at next June's Committee Meeting. There is nothing to prevent members proposing a charity and sending their suggestions together with a reasoned supporting summary to the Secretary prior to that meeting. Any such proposals as well as those from Committee members will then be discussed and voted upon until a winner emerges. The likely support to be provided by a charity will undoubtedly form a part of such discussions. Whoever is chosen will certainly be in a "follow that" position after our outstanding 2016 experience. Speaking personally I feel that the winner this time will probably be a cancer charity.

Absolutely correct Alan. Leave the thing alone - when I was doing it the marshals hung on until everyone had gone through!

You rightly "believe" he might be signing, but he will have to be "bribed" to do so!

Details will be in the November issue of "Club Torque" due for publication this week. Don't panic!

You can buy as many as you like!  Proceeds (if any) go to our charity fund and Club fund - 50% each

An admirable summary of the true position and coinciding with what myself and others have been saying over the course of this lengthy discussion which I hope will now cease so that the organising team can get on with doing what they have always done - keep the event running  on its traditional lines and at the same time incorporating those few amendments as and when they become necessary.

This event has been successfully organised for fifty years, has provided enjoyable classic car driving for hundreds of Club Triumph members and others and has raised large sums for charity, including over £90,000 this year for Guide Dogs. As a previous organiser and participant in 14 runs I suggest - leave it alone! And leave it to the experienced organising team to keep it going on its traditional course. This discussion, particularly when people who have never done it or even seen it are concerned, should cease forthwith!

Have to agree with you Roger, those were the days!  Also agree about that foggy year - no fun, can't remember the year either but will try and research it!

Appreciate the subject being raised, but have to support Tim's summary. I organised the first 18 events and took part in the first 14, always with a two-man crew. I think the long history of the run does prove that it is inherently safe and mostly exhibits a good standard of driving. Leave it to the organising team to see that this continues. Roll on 2018!

Agree with Andy - done the RBRR fourteen times, always with a crew of two. Its the best way!

Nobody has yet been refused a start!

Steve There is a letter in the 1978 RBRR file from Sales Manager Roger Clarke offering refreshments and refuelling facilities. He was also an official of the Devon Branch of the Club. Derek

I don't either, but I will have a more detailed look at it and let you know the result!

I repeat - there were no marshals and we never went near Charing Cross. We did not "persuade" Broadfields to lend us their 1300. I was not intending to do the event until Mr Hawkine the boss, decided he wanted his 18 year old son to do it and asked me to go with him and at the same time offered the 1300. It is true that our member with the 2000 dropped out and the factory offered a replacement heralding Works involvement in every Run up to and including the Acclaim period.

OK! But there is no mention of Broadfields providing the 2000 and we never went near Charing Cross and there were no marshals in 1966, we just checked in at  agents and hotels. It was a long time ago!

Great idea to provide this information and history, but there are quite a few errors as well as typos. For instance uin 1966 the 2000 was not provided by Broadfields - can't think where this idea came from - actually it was a Works car driven by test driver Fred Nicklin with Club Secretary Dennis Bullock. Also where did Charing Cross come from?! They are not called Route Books - they have always been Road Books.

You need to get somebody to proof read the thing - too many errors - Gordarno - ugh!

Not more sun visor strips please, it's hard enough to get members to display the current ones!

Great news about the event, but Tim Hunt will tell you himself that he has not taken part in every RBRR and that airfield is Weston Zoyland!