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Strange oil filler cap on Renown


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Hi, just looking at son's new Renown and the oil filler is a rather strange brass affair, a little mis-shapen with an elbow on top ending in a serrated outlet to which a pipe would appear to need attachment.
Does it just push onto the rocker cover or is it a wrong 'un?

Cheers,
Martin

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Bodge?

The 710 is actually attached to the rocker cover by a spring and small chain ( think at those old fashioned drain plug chains)
and most likely will have the different grades of oil listed
Attached picture is of a Vanguard, but it is the same on the renown, it is the only picture i have at the moment.

The rocker cover is different though, the air silencer is running longitudinal and not traversal

Dirk

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Hi Dirk, thanks.
That is as described to me on the phone just a moment ago by Brad at the Roadster place.  I will get Bazz to take and send a photo of what's on there, but it is very strange.  One might even say Steampunk!
Brad has promised to see if he has one of the above caps, for us.  And a starting handle.  He also advised on the likely cause of the battery never keeping a charge or, more likely, accepting a charge.

Most to the point, from my own point of view, he actually has on his wall, the number plates from our old family 1800, HXN 384 and has promised to send them to me with the log book and vin plates!  Thus, after 66 years the old girl will come home, if only in part.  Her engine went to a German gentleman, her gearbox to an Englishman, both in Roadsters and her doors and bonnet he sold only last week to somebody in England!  The car was too far gone woodwise, so had to be spread around.  But how remarkable that a chance phone call could result in the above.  And what a thoroughly helpful, knowledgeable and friendly guy is Brad.  Very well recommended.

Martin

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Dirk,
damn!  I'd have bought the whole car if I'd known he had it so recently.  Wood isn't a problem.

So what do you make of the strange Steampunk oil filler?  Could it be a breather outlet to take down to the crankcase, like the one out of the end of the (correct) air cleaner can?

Would it make much difference having the Vanguard style air cleaner?  I can't imagine picking up a decent Renown one easily.

Martin

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I guess you are OK with the air cleaner, after all it is a 1800 one, closer call than Vanguard!. for the correct cleaner you also need the rocker cover, it is slightly different and has 2 brackets where the 2 loops loop (eugh? is that how you say this) through.

The crankcase breether is on the side of the car, just below the oil gallery on the passenger side aft that connects into the air cleaner
There is also a breather on the rocker cover carburettor side, that connects on the manifold just below the carburettor.
carburettor shouls be a Solex Bio , not sure which one in in the picture, and not sure what the use is for the pipe sticking out of the side at the air cleaner

TBH I thought the car was too good to be broken, or whatever was left of it did not seem too bad to me, but then market prices are low for these parts and Brad is not really awash with storage space to keep these just in case.
However I am pretty sure the car was an 1800, or at least a round chassis one.

Dirk

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Thanks for the info, Dirk.

I should have a new oil filler cap coming from Brad.

He said all the wood had rotted on "my" 1800 and that made it only good for breaking.  What a shame to have missed the car so recently.  I would have loved to have restored it. Bits of ash are no problem to replace.
My problem is I have no covered storage for a car, much less somewhere I can work.  I have a Burlington Beretta to build and that is all covered in heavy plastic sheeting and roped up until the weather improves.  Another car would have been impractical, alas.

Cheers,
Martin

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