Anthony Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I'm know the bonnet and bulkhead on the 1200s changed throughout their production, and am aware of the following changes.... Indicators size changed Headlight Cowl reshaped "Herald" Vs "Triumph" lettering on the Bonnet Bonnet vent/grille towards the bulkhead changed Vent/grille on the bulkhead changed Wiper spacing increased Can anyone tell me when these changes occurred, and if there are any others I haven't spotted on the 1200 models yet? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudman Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Headlamp cowls went from long to short, if I'm remembering correctly, about 1963 In 1961or thereabouts they used single-lamp sidelights and 'Herald' bonnet lettering but only for a short time, early 1962 maybe. Early bonnet vents went from an inset grille section to a one-piece pressing around 1964. Wiperspacing went from narrow to wide around 1967 with the advent of the 13/60. Other alterations (despite the massive change from Mk1 to Mk2 chassis) were: bonnet fittings ie the rubber cone went from bonnet to bulkhead, heater lost the drain pipe and gained a rubber flap, wheels changed from wide slot to narrow slot.. and there are bound to be many more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 Thanks Colin, So the headlight cowls went from long to short? I was under the impression it was the other way round, but your way certainly makes sense from a manufacturing and cost point of view. My '69 car came with a few cowls in both lengths. I guess I should leave the short ones on for originality then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudman Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I've had more than one with one short and one long, but later cars were shorter. I managed to obtain a remade pair of long-peaks a few years back for my 1962 1200... still not fitted but at least they're salted away. I would reckon that very few observers would ever notice the difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitumen Boy Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Mine has an odd pair and I didn't notice for years. It's a fairly subtle difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Commission Numbers for GA models GA1DL Feb 61 First saloon 7031HP Regd 13th Oct 1960 Engine X807E GA266CV Feb 61 First CV GA609CP Feb 61 First coupé GA3838 Mar 61 GA4414SC Mar 61 First estate GA6458 Apr 61 GA13393SC 61 HTW731B GA15938 Jun 61 No Bonnet handle GA20039 61 Still with black pear gearknob? GA20465HE GA23599 Jul 61 Change to coat hooks GA29284 Oct 61 Disc Brakes optional GA34986E 61 B30 PSE1 carb. GA35950 Oct 61 Bonnet stays fitted GA41328 22 Nov 61 Car (AM) LCV GA43171 6 Dec 61 Car (AM) LCP GA44651 First Courier GA45538 1 Jan 62 GA50248 Feb 62 Door lock change GA80001 July 62 Mk 2 (Star) chassis GA80974 13 July 62 Car (AM) LCV GA83026 Aug 62 GA85461 Sep 62 Cast iron bellhousing GA86161 Sep 62 Dizzie cap change GA86626 62 Estates given 4 ½“ J wheels GA90271 62 Roof cover plate reads Triumph (not Herald) GA90334 Oct 62 Bonnet lettering ‘Triumph’ FC1HE Oct 62 Spitfire 4 GD1RS Dec 62 First 12/50 GA97611 1 Jan 63 GA102478 14 Feb 63 Car (AM) LCV GA106791 20 Mar 63 Car (AM) LCV GA105229HE Mar 63 White wheels appear following intro of 12/50 GA109884 9 Apr 63 Car (AM) LCV GA108006HE GA114739 May 63 Sealed beam headlights. ?Short H/L cowl GA119167 29 Jun 63 Car (AM) LCV GA117490HE GA121559 July 63 GA127239 63 Spider calliper mounting on vertical link GA130164 Aug 63 Pedal brake light switch GA130264 Aug 63 New style dash GA138340 1 Jan 64 GA141873 64 GA154566CP 29 Jul 64 Coupe for sale GA152205HE GA161460E ?Aug 64 Square ended fan GA162103CP Oct 64 last coupé (total 5319) GA163205V Oct 64 last Courier (5316) GA164781 Nov 64 Narrow slot wheels GA178101E Nov 64 Hot Cam Engine FC5000HE Spit Mk 2 Hot Cam, Diaphragm Clutch FC61023E Spit Mk 2 with Mk 3 cam, large followers GA169447 1 Jan 65 GA172789 Feb 65 Start change rear lenses GA173303 65 Change rear lenses from L636 to L759 GA178624E May 65 Head fitted with brass tube GA184793 Oct? 65 Late thermostat housing GA188886 Apr? 65 Split seat belt mounts GA1895** 14 Aug 65 Car CGR751C (Mark H.) GA184793E ?Oct 65 GA190341E 65 HS2 on TC option GA200280 1 Jan 66 GA204020E Jan 66 Diaphragm clutch GA206771E Jan 66 Rubber rear crankshaft seal FC69122E ? ? ? ditto GA221593DL 66 Car (OAC 64F) GA222433 1 Jan 67 FD Jan 67 Spit Mk 3 GA225581E ?Feb 67 Pressed fan ? GA230770CV 7 Jun 67 Car (NDU710F) GE1DL Aug 67 First 13/60 GA229454 67 Change to 14LP type brake calipers GA234868 Sep 67 last CV (total 43295) GA234990 Sep 67 last estate (total 39819) GD55689RS Sep 67 Last 12/50 GA235735 Nov 67 Rubber boot mat GA236220 Dec 67 Black carpets GA236629 1 Jan 68 GA237600D 68 Stronger Diff. FC120000D? ? ? ? ditto GA238107 Mar 68 Now Negative Earth / late dizzie top GA244523 1 Jan 69 GA248238 1 Jan 70 GA249873DL Dec 70 End (saloon) (total 201142) ‘Car AM’ indicates that the car is recorded on the North American Triumph Herald database: http://triumph-herald.us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Great list, and very useful! Oh, and thanks for noting my Database! Of course, nothing in the Triumph World is "absolute"! For example: GA15938 Jun 61 No Bonnet handle I have, on that database, an "export" model 1200 convertible (has Courier-style grille), GA16005LCV, which has the bonnet handle! But given how close that is to 15938, I'm not surprised that the handle would be present! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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