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8621 wrote:
hi
i used johns advice on cam timing for 2500 just one qustion iv fitted cam with its matching followers then double stacked no 1 and 6



do i rhen messure  the height when they open and close so that they are the same then button up cam
thanks



totally lost on this top one

and this bottom one, could ye elucidate it better please.!

M

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If Mark is referencing this John, then he may mean "Equal Lift on Overlap" as a method of setting the cam, which I have advocated.

This relies on the fact that a Triumph four and a six can both be considered as two half engines that are mirror images of each other across the midline (an only partial analogy!) and 180degrees out of synch.
Both Nos 1 and 6(or 4) pistons will be a TDC simultaneously, but if No.1 is on the firing stroke, while No.6 is between the ene dof one (Otto) cycle and the beginning of the next.   BOTH valves are open, the exhaust closing and the inlet opening, and Triumph camshafts are 'symmetrical', with the same profiles on both valves and the same spacing.

So, set the crank at TDC  (no.1 and No.6) and then the No.6 cam lobes so that they are the same distance from the midline, giving the same lift on each of the No.6 valves.   THEN you can "button up" the cam drive, link crank and cam via the chian an sprockets.

The more conventional method uses the 'magic number' that the cam grinder gives you, the angle After TDC when No.1 Exhaust valve should be at max lift.  Both methods are equally valid, unless you have a most unusual cam grind, that makes it non-symmetrical, but witha conventional cam ELoO can be used if you don't know the number.

John

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yes i used your method john with piston stop actually i did it 4 times because i couldnt believe how simple it was
so just to clarify i measure the lift on no 6 and when its equal i m there
i can always double check when i refit the head as per workshop manual
once again thanks john

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iv never had the need to fit camshaft in the past so i rang a dozen motor repairers in town they all made it sound like black magic
in fact half of them declined because they said they could not do it
i have the practical skills to do the job but need to understand the theory
so in conclusion have a go dont second guess yourself

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