wakaday Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I did an Engine build many years ago for a guy who provided me with Pistons that he had Valve pockets machined into. It was nothing special and looked a bit crude buit it was peace of mind for him. Not sure if he needed them because I always used Payen thicker gaskets but it did the job.Lost touch with him now and last worked on his car back in about 2001when he said he was selling. I must dig out his number and see how it went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 latest news is that the engine block and heads are back from the machine shopand the crank has been re-ground all ready to be reassembled apparently the engine block was miles out of squarei dont think that the pistons have had valve pockets machined in them altho it was talked about as a possible optionthe heads have had the valve seats cut further back into up into the metal to help with the clearance issuesi am not too sure about this if they have gone too far i would of thought it could get too close to the water jacket has anybody heard of this being done before ?hopefully i should be able to get over tonight and have a look and i will take some more pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 John,"Do they need 2 head gaskets each side then to sandwich the shim?"I don't know for sure. The man to ask is Tony Hart. Tel: 020 8426 1327 Mobile: 07836 202347Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 Thats a very interesting questioni am definatley going over to see my engine tonight so i will ask chris the guy who is building itif you look in the pic of my engine in bits at the top of the pic above the rubber gloves there are what looks like the head gaskets but they are the shimsavers used previouslythey were blowing between the faces because of the warped block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 ok apparently now that the heads have been skimmed ect there is no need for shimsavers just extra thick payen gasketshere is a pic of reground crank and various new parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 here is the heads skimmed and machined pic is a bit darkwhen u put a valve in it now sits almost flush with the headwhere as before they stuck out quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share Posted November 9, 2006 and the final pic is the block skimmed flatwhen u look close its an amazing difference to way it was originallyand no wonder it wasnt sealing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 Latest pics of engine nearly ready to go back in the car, just need some more machining on the central manifold. because the heads have been skimmed the holes for the bolts and the water dont line up as they have moved down the v hard to describe but if you saw it you woould know what i mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 and one from the front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 and the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 and the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 and the final picwhat does everybody think about having a spin on oil filter conversion ?is it worth doing while i have the engine out ? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted November 23, 2006 Share Posted November 23, 2006 John,Looks nice. Have you torqued the heads yet? Good practice is to torque the inlet manifold to both heads before securing them in place. Ensures heads are parallel and redduces chance of leaks from inlet manifold. Use good quality inlet gaskets, preferably Payen.Here is mine before it went in after the last rebuildThere are plenty of opinions regarding spin-on filters. Had one for about 10 years, no problems. Make sure it is a good one and fitted properly. Apparently some do not not seal properly and allow oil to by-pass the filter.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 Thanks Daveyours looks great with everything bolted on all the gaskets are payen, think i am going to stick with the original oil filter for nowaparently its not a bad job to change anywaynext big job is to go through all the ancillarys, carbs starter motor ect and check they are ok before refiting them. the autobox should be good had that refurbed less than 1000 miles agojust hope after all this work the engine runs okJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted December 1, 2006 Author Share Posted December 1, 2006 All back in and ready to go sofingers crossed for the big fire upJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 [quote by=JOHN_LEARMONTH link=Blah.pl?b=stag,m=1160052037,s=38 date=1164976365]All back in and ready to go sofingers crossed for the big fire upJohn[/quote]John all the best looks greatAdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Can I ask if the Strombergs on Stag V8s have anything special done to them, that allows them to be canted over like that?They are 175 CDS I guess?Cheers, JimPS. Both engines look fantastic, I hope the go as well as they look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Hi Jim,No modifications, there is a carburettor pedestal the sits on top of the manifold. This has two faces at 90 degrees to each other. They are Standard Stromberg 175's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted December 1, 2006 Share Posted December 1, 2006 Thanks Richard, just wondering 's all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 YIPEEEAll done and up and running fine no leeks no more rattling or blowing exhausts had to have the carbs stripped again to get it to idle properlywent for a run on sunday and just one minor problemthe temp gauge only just registers when the car is hot and i know the car is getting warm and not overheating could it just be the sensor ?any ideas ?John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Don't forget to re-torque the heads now and a little later too, in the correct pattern, to maintain the clamp :)(I think this is the case, anyway - it certainly is on the 1850 which has the similar head) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shenderson Posted December 4, 2006 Share Posted December 4, 2006 Did you get a refund from the joker who messed up the engine in the first place? Get a report from an expert - someone who knows about Stag engines, or engines in general, then take him to the small claims court (claims less than £5K). All you need to know is on-line at:http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/claims/small/index.htmClaim also for the cost of the report.Good luckSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN LEARMONTH Posted December 4, 2006 Author Share Posted December 4, 2006 No i didnt get anything from the guy who messed it up he just said that he wouldnt give me my money back but if i gave him the engine he would rectify it which i wasnt going to do having lost all faith in himit has ended up costing me just over 3k to rebuild the engine but i have no idea if i would be sucessful or where to get an engineers report done if antbody has any ideas i would be gratefullJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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