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Last night when I went to put my 1360 back in the garage having spent the day working on it I went to start the car and... nothing.  Turn key one click, ignition lights go on as normal and all seems well, turn key to start and nothing but the click of the switch.  When I lifted the bonnet and pressed the solonoid switch (or whatever its called) it started fine.  Can anyone suggest what might be the problem? ive checked haynes wiring diagram and all affected wires seem fine and attached correctly, though im no electrician.  Engine switches off at key as normal.

Although drivable I can just see the excited looks of commuters faces if the car were to stall (which it quite likes doing in this weather) and I have to get out and open the bonnet to restart each time...

Cheers Tom

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Sounds like a dodgy solenoid that either needs tapping with a hammer or replacing if you have ascertained that the wiring is all OK. Solenoids can tend to stick. The noise of the clunk is the solenoid pulling in its contact but if no starter motor whir then the solenoid has not pulled in the contact far enough to make a good contact.

Solenoids are not much £s and this would be better than having to keep lifting the bonnet and tapping with a suitably located hammer/brick/head/stilletto/club hammer.

best of luck, neil

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Ooops just read your post again. The solenoid is not clunking at all so it is either wiring and the ignition switch is not instructing the solenoid to engage the starter motor or the solenoid is getting the signal but has died. Can you check what you get at the wire connected to the solenoid? If you get (12V?) when ignition is turned to start (poistion III) then the wiring is OK but solenoid is duff. Check the wiring diagram in the Haynes manual to comfirm what you would expect at this point.

Cheers, Neil

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Have 12V at end of small wire to solonoid when switch operated in position 3 so solonoid probably duff, is this one with a button on a specialist part or something im likely to be able to get at my electrical motor factors?

On a different topic my difficulties this week seem to be continuing.  Having renewed the fuel liness I started her up (under the bonnet) and since then engine seems to be running rough and rick, difficult to start and dying on idle, could my new fuel lines be affecting petrol flow into carb requiring a retune or is it more likely just the cars revenge for me driving her in and out of the garage for the last fortnight on choke and not letting it warm up?

So currently im stalling and having to start up under the bonnet before creating a fair amount of noxious fumes, that should stop people tailgating...

Cheers
Tom

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Before you splash out on a solenoid (and I have a few stashed away if you want second hand) check your wires - I've just sffered a very similar problem and found it to be broken copper wire inside the insulation of the low voltage feed to the solenoid - an easy fix :-) See my Blog for the full story.

Oh and whilst looking for wiring stuff I found a push button starter solenoid here http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/battisol/battisol.html £23.60, no idea if that's a good price though :-)

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Well I stripped and cleaned everything up yesterday, checked all the wiring and still nothing.  This morning no go either.  Then this afternoon whist putting the power on in readiness for the inevitable bonnet lift I find all is working fine again.  Bizarre, either another idiosyncrasy of the car to get used to or the magical properties of WD40...

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The solenoid does take a fair bit of power to operate, maybe the 12v you are getting is there, but not enough amps to make the thing operate. Check that the spade connector on the thick brown wire from the switch is making a nice tight connection.

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