roarioti Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I want to know the color code bronze - gold to repaint the rocker cover. I enclose a photo. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 *cough* TSSC Club Shop sells it, used it on mine, very good paint,Hope that helps,Luddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roarioti Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share Posted May 27, 2011 Excellent information.Many thanks. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Ludwig wrote:*cough* TSSC Club Shop sells it, used it on mine, very good paint,Except it looks absolutely nothing like the original.The same colour was widely used on the entire engines of Ferguson tractors, and is listed as available in cans through tractor restoration specialists. Whether it's anything better than the TSSC has is questionable though, I've not used it myself. The colour should be quite coppery, with only the slightest sheen. Probably best done with a lacquer coat to give the right (lack of) gloss,Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Good points Bill,Seemed to be the closest I could find, put any differences down to ageing of original paint/photos etc against the "newness" of the paint straight out of the can.Ta,Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Quote:The same colour was widely used on the entire engines of Ferguson tractorsFerguson FE35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidcourier Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 It's also a Ford colour... can't remember what name or which Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hammond Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 Luster Bronze as used on MKll Cortina range including 1600E models circa 1968, a bit lighter and not as deep as the bronze on the Herald rocker box. TSSC club shop is really the best source for this.Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpinemauve Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 The untouched rocker covers I have all had a bright orange base coat - very similar to the Orange ST Ford Focus you can get or the Orange mobile phone company orange. The 'Gold' colour is then applied over the top. This gives a really deep colour where-as the 'Official' remade paint doesn't have this depth and seems too 'brassy' in comparison.I always thought the later models had a different 'Gold' as opposed to early, but they are probably down to this poor colour match then?I worry about the Sebring White remade paint too which looks very 'blue'. I have a unused pot of original Sebring White which is nothing like it...and don't get me started on Alpine Mauve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roarioti Posted May 30, 2011 Author Share Posted May 30, 2011 Nice discussion. Ludwig can you show a picture of your rocker painted with the spray TSSC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 alpinemauve wrote:I worry about the Sebring White remade paint too which looks very 'blue'. I have a unused pot of original Sebring White which is nothing like it...and don't get me started on Alpine Mauve...Sebring White has a translucent property. As it's commonly used as the secondary in 2-tone combinations, it tends to pick up the hue of the primary colour. When used with Signal Red it takes on a pink tinge, with Powder Blue it's more Bluey. Some of this will be down to reflection of the adjacent colour, but some will be down to it's application directly over the primary colour, with no primer between. Do you know what colour primer the factory used with Sebring White in monotone schemes?Alpine Mauve? I had some cans which worked as a good match for the original paint on YOX109, the 1959 Saloon I owned for some years. What problems have you found? In general, I've found the Autopaint colours to be a decent match for the originals,Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hammond Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 My hunch is that the factory would have used white primer as they did with the other colours (AFAIK). Sebring White is about as white as white can get. Unlike White (Code 19) which can vary considerably from a brilliant white to a cream. As you say, Sebring is very translucent, and is, as such, quite hard to cover.Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 My perception of Sebring White is that it, of all the various white shades Standard-Triumph used, is the most "bluish"! But that actually tends to make it very white, depending on light and, as Bill notes, any other shade with which it's paired. As to the light factor, I remember reading that on-air TV personalities used to wear blue shirts back in the days of black-and-white television, as under the intense studio lighting those shirts actually looked whiter than most white shirts! I think much the same effect happens with Sebring White in some instances.Meanwhile, I have an April 1960-build 948 sedan in Pale Yellow when I got it in 1970. It was not until many years later that I found out it originally had been duo-toned with Sebring White. I was able to very carefully remove some of the Pale Yellow repaint in a few areas to reveal the rather thin but original coat of Sebring White. The car has been stored indoors for most of the last 40 years, and in whatever lighting I have there, the Sebring has a very bluish look. I suspect that, in sunlight, it would be much whiter-looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hammond Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 TSSC bronze, as shown......Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpinemauve Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 I found the Alpine Mauve paint wouldn't change in different lighting conditions as the original paint does. In sunlight the colour goes very pink, whilst overcast the car looks blue - thus giving the car a warm or cold hue. Unclean cars could actually be confused as Phantom Grey on a dull day. Two tone cars with Sebring White tops then followed suit with the white taking on the pinkish or blueish colour. I have not seen this pinkish look of Sebring White on any two tone red cars - the white DOES look a more natural white than the 'blue' cast on bluer cars. Isn't the eye funny?Whether intentional or not the colour Triumph introduced (Alpine Mauve) changed in different circumstances. My experiments focused on the interior panels which would have been away from direct sunlight.I was also reading about a series of TR3's that were also painted in Alpine Mauve in 1959. A very small numbers of which I do not believe any have survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 alpinemauve wrote:Isn't the eye funny?Indeed it is, as I've never noticed the changes in Alpine Mauve! No matter how sympathetic the restoration work and colour match, it's always easy to spot a repainted early car - and I don't just mean when 2-pack paints are used. There's so much more to it than simple colour match.Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roarioti Posted May 31, 2011 Author Share Posted May 31, 2011 1218 wrote:TSSC bronze, as shown......MarkBefore using the spray TSSC on the rocker cover, must be used a red oxide base coat / primer. If so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpinemauve Posted May 31, 2011 Share Posted May 31, 2011 Is the eye funny?The two squares marked A and B are EXACTLY the same colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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