Steveant1 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Had a little look again at my car as I haven’t had a chance since I got it a couple of weeks ago I taken a couple of spark plugs out to replace them and noticed that one is short reach in the head and the ones I got for the car was long reach. It’s a good job that I looked before I put them in. So my question is what is the right plug long or short reach. And noticed that I have a little leak on the still water pipe that goes behind the exhaust down pipe are they hard to get hold of. And the carb looks a bit worse for where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 What engine is it? IIRC BP(R)5ES or 6ES are right for a Triumph 4 cylinder but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drofgum Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Steveant1, The shorter reach plugs would be used with the 1147 and earlier engines. 1296 and later got longer reach plugs. Regards, Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Try to get a good look behind the exhaust manifold with a bright light and mirror as theres also a core plug there that is prone to leaking. Think the pipes are available in stainless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Water return pipes are available from Fitchetts they will post them to you usually £5 postage tel: Telford 01952 619585 There are two types, the 948 & 1200 are straight through but the 13/60 has an extra outiet on the side so make sure you ask for the correct one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steveant1 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 Hi thanks all for all your replys. It a 1964 12/50 engine it might have been on the change over. If you have a close look at the photos you can just see a drip coming on the pip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Yes could be the pipe but could also be spraying from the core plug immediately behind onto it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 Hi yes I see what you mean. When I tried to have a look it was dripping down off the pipe but looking at the place of the cor plug it might be spraying on it then dripping down so I will take the pipe off then have a little look if I’m not sure I will take the manifold off. Then I may clean the engine up to see if the other gaskets are ok. I no the rocker box gasket is leaking. I noticed that there wasn’t a temperature gauge in the car so how would I know if it was overheating. How hard is it to fit one and where would the thermostat censor go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Will you buy the new pipe beforehand or wait until youve removed and inspected the old one? Generally its pretty easy to know if an engine is running hot as it starts to pink (rattling noise as you accelerate), struggles to maintain idle and smells hot. Then helpfully before any damage can happen the radiator cap lifts and dumps steam everywhere (unless youre using waterless coolant of course)! All a gauge would do is give you a bit of advance warning that this is about to happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 Hi. I will remove the old one first then if not the pip I will remove the manifold to look at the core plug. I’ve not long had the car and checking it all over before I take it out for a ride there is a lot I’ve got to do so it won’t be on the road for a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted April 23 Author Share Posted April 23 Hi. All I have taken off the manifold not a straightforward job as I thought I had to undo the exhaust and broke two studs to get the pipe at the back which I have now removed and it is the pipe which is leaking as in photos now I’ve just got removed the broken Studs And replace with a new pipe, clean the carburettor And put it back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) That’s bad luck I had the core plug behind the manifold leak on Mabel I fitted a new stainless water return pipe on her too Edited April 23 by Wendy Dawes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 36 minutes ago, Steveant1 said: Hi. All I have taken off the manifold not a straightforward job as I thought I had to undo the exhaust and broke two studs to get the pipe at the back which I have now removed and it is the pipe which is leaking as in photos now I’ve just got removed the broken Studs And replace with a new pipe, clean the carburettor And put it back together. Oh dear now I do feel bad but I thought you could get the pipe out to inspect it first without removing the manifolds☹️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) Hi Glang, on the Herald you need to remove carburettor , inlet and exhaust manifolds and to unbolt the exhaust bracket on the bell housing it’s a faff lol the water return pipe can be changed without removing the ancillaries by feeding it behind the manifold.as with the Vitesse but can’t get to the core plug without removing all the above, I suspect that Steve has insoected the core plug too which explains removal of carb, manifolds , exhaust etc Edited April 23 by Wendy Dawes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Ah ok thanks. I think on the vitesse you can thread the pipe in and out without touching much else🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 On 20/04/2024 at 22:13, Steveant1 said: Hi. I will remove the old one first then if not the pip I will remove the manifold to look at the core plug. I’ve not long had the car and checking it all over before I take it out for a ride there is a lot I’ve got to do so it won’t be on the road for a bit. There’s usually more to do than you think once you start 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted Wednesday at 05:33 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:33 13 hours ago, glang said: Oh dear now I do feel bad but I thought you could get the pipe out to inspect it first without removing the manifolds☹️ Don’t feel bad all advance is welcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted Wednesday at 05:43 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:43 I did try to remove the pip without removing the manifold first but no go and I did what to see if the cor plug is ok. Getting the down pipe off is a pain in the harry then 2 nuts broke off now I have to get the studs out. Next step is the carb stop down and clean then find out where all the oil come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted Wednesday at 05:46 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:46 13 hours ago, Wendy Dawes said: That’s bad luck I had the core plug behind the manifold leak on Mabel I fitted a new stainless water return pipe on her too It looks a lot better. I do like the pipe nice job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted Wednesday at 05:47 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:47 13 minutes ago, Steveant1 said: Don’t feel bad all advance is welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted Wednesday at 05:58 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 05:58 13 hours ago, Wendy Dawes said: That’s bad luck I had the core plug behind the manifold leak on Mabel I fitted a new stainless water return pipe on her too Where did you get the pipe from I’m trying to find the place that sells the pipe with the flange they say fit and forget that is what I want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted Wednesday at 06:14 Share Posted Wednesday at 06:14 Yes as Wendy said, Canleys do the pipe and all the other big suppliers, for yours think part number is 206085S... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveant1 Posted Wednesday at 10:05 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 10:05 Thanks for your reply do club members get discount if so how do I go about getting it. And has the club got an app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted Wednesday at 14:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:28 (edited) They usually have an olive and fit into a union on the back of the waterpump housing Not sure that we get discount Steve, there’s no actual club app but I saved the website on my phone Home Screen so I now just click on the icon and I’m in Edited Wednesday at 14:37 by Wendy Dawes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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