Camilla Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Hi allCan you tell me if its possible to fit a 3-point inertia seatbelt in the back of a triumph herald 1200? we've got static 2-points in the front but dont think there are mounting points for the back?Cheers Camilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Saloon - yesConvertible - noAnything can be done if you are prepared to put enough engineering into the project, but anything more than lap belts in the back of a Convertible becomes a very involved project,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 what enginerring might be required for a saloon? does the frame need reinforcing? where can you put the reel?thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The Saloon is straightforward enough, the only difficulty I can foresee is fitting the reels onto the parcel shelf without fouling the rear screen.With static belts you need to drill a single hole for each mounting, ensuring the inner end of the horizontal belt is well away from the spring cover plate, then back each hole with the spreader plate which is usually supplied with the kit.You may additionally need to fabricate a mounting for the reel on an inertia setup, it would depend on it's shape and size. Is there any reason you are particularly keen on inertia reels over statics?Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 the inertia was thought favourable for potential childseat application. Would a static 3 point do just as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I can't comment on current child seats as my son is nearly 13 years old. Those available in the early 2000s generally worked well with static belts (ours were Britax) and included instructions for fitting in static modes. What I would add though is that NO-ONE at any of the fitting specialists had the first clue about these applications, so we had to do our own research on how they were supposed to be installed.Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Thanks again Bill. I don’t mean to be too demanding of your expertise but could you advise the top location you might affix the seatbelts?As you mentioned the opening for the spring provides good access for a first point and similarly there is a frame point that is easily accessed from the boot for the second lap point.I just can’t envisage where the top of the belt might go. could it be directly affixed to the parcel shelf? I would have thought it would be too weak?Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I've fitted the outer lap fixing to the wheelarch, close to the corner where it meets the floor.The upper mounting can go directly into the shelf ahead of the rear screen. Take it close to the outer corner, but ensure there isn't rot in the seam between deck and wing as this would weaken the structure.Going off on a bit of a tangent, I've been intrigued by the Isofix system. With retro-fit kits for modern cars being available for less than £20, I wonder whether it could be adapted to a Herald.Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 thanks again Bill. I'll have a look at the parcelshelf mounting. I was looking at the potential of Iso-fix for our herald but i wasnt sure if there would be any welding needed? additionally, i wasnt that confident of my boyfriend drilling holes under the seats if he cant see where they're going. the 3-point belt seems a more realistic option for us as the access to the three points is quite good. is there anything to avoid directly under the seats?Cheers Camilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 By strange coincidence, I was asked this morning to take a look at how to fit 3-point belts in the back of a Herald Saloon!This car is undergoing a full rebuild with the rear shell completely bare at present. I took a look at the parcel shelf (no roof in the way) and the corner of the roof has quite a substantial structure around it.I'll be back in the workshop later this week, I'll try to remember to get you some pictures to show where's best for the mounting point,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share Posted February 5, 2013 that will be absolutely amazing Bill. thanks for the help.All the best Camilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Sorry this took longer than intended.This is a view into the lefthand rear parcel shelf:The groove with two holes visible is where the back edge of the roof locates. The flat section ahead of this, towards the outside of the car has the strongest structure in the area, with a member running forward from it to the B-post to give additional bracing in the event of an impact. Provided this area isn't rusted, drilling and fitting a spreader plate behind the mounting bolt will provide a decent belt anchor.Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 hi Billthanks very much for posting the picture. Could you say if where i have marked the picture is correct?Sorry to be a bit dim, i just want to make sure before i start drilling holesCheers Camilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 oops. here it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Yes, that's pretty much where I'd put it,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camilla Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 amazing. thanks very much for your help Bill. I'm going to get the drill out this weekend.cheers Camilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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