volospian Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Anybody know the weight of the Triumph V8, fully dressed (with bellhousing and gearbox)?Any help would be appreciated :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 446 Weight pounds Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 Is that taken of a list similar to this: http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html or are you certain that that weight includes the gearbox and bell housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 Is that taken of a list similar to this: http://www.team.net/sol/tech/engine.html or are you certain that that weight includes the gearbox and bell housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Hi . I'm not certain i found that on a site from ask.co.uk so maybe that is only the blocksorryAdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobble350 Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I weighed the bare block when considering shipping it for rebore. 170 pounds. Sorry, haven't weghed the engine / box together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 So if the bare block is 170lbs, that leaves 276lbs for everything else.Was that bare block without crank, pistons, etc.?If so, I would imagine the crank weighing a tidy bit, the pistons a few pounds more, the heads adding to it and so on. It could be that the 446 figure is just the engine without the box and housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 yeah probably? BUT Answer me this WHY do you need to know the weight of an engineAdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 Because I'm thinking of replacing my existing Triumph unit with something more powerful, like an LS1, SBC or AJP8 and I want to know the weight difference to help me choose the engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 200kg exactly, that sounds about the right weight including flywheel and clutch and exhausts.TR6 engine (late is about 185 I believe), so it does look about right.U won't find any modern V8 that weighs as much as that, the Stag engine is pretty heavy, so no wonder they understeer!FYI a Jaguar V12 weighs about 280kg, & it's suprisingly not that much more.Any attempt to run a DOHC V8 (V8-32) will cause you problems in a Stag because there's no room, especially above the engine, hence why they always fitted 'orrible pushrod designs like the Ford V6 or Rover/Buick prehistoric blocks.(It's why I want to fit a SOHC 2.7L all alloy Honda V6-24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 I'm going on this information from this site (http://www.chevroletls1.com/chevrolet_ls1_6_info.html):Quote:The Corvette LS1 engine measures approximately 25.25" long (Rover V8 is 27.5"), LS1 overall height is 24-25" (Rover V8 is 25.5" plus the carb and air filter or efi plenum, 29-30" or more), LS1 width across the cylinder heads is 20.5" (Rover V8 is 20"). With the T56 6 speed gearbox fitted the LS1 is some 3" shorter than a Rover V8 with a standard 5 speed gearbox.and as the Rover is a popular swap, I think the LS1 should fit. Apparently the weight of an LS1 is Total Dressed Engine Weight Auto. - 457.6 lbs. (208 kg); Manual - 497.2 lbs (226 kg) so that looks a similar weight too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Ah but your diff will last about 5 secs ...and isn't that engine an old pushrod design??Stags should be overhead cam....so why not fit a Ferrari 3L V8 engine instead? (308/328)They're nice and cheap these days and LIGHT too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 Not with a BMW diff conversion, should be able to handle 350hp easily ;)Yes, it's a push rod, but OHC isn't that high on my list of priorities. Size, weight and power are the main check boxes and if you're getting into "Stags should have..." territory, then Stags should have Stag engines, and nothing else.A Ferarri engine, yeah, because I see so many of those for sale! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobble350 Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 [quote by=volospian link=Blah.pl?b=stag,m=1167676068,s=5 date=1167729693]Was that bare block without crank, pistons, etc.?[/quote]Yes.Engine, gearbox & diff change, may as well go for grafting the upper bodywork onto a modern floorpan to get the benefits of better suspension and brakes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 [quote by=bobble350 link=Blah.pl?b=stag,m=1167676068,s=12 date=1167775365]Engine, gearbox & diff change, may as well go for grafting the upper bodywork onto a modern floorpan to get the benefits of better suspension and brakes as well.[/quote]lol, I think that's a bit extreme!There's plenty of pieces around to improve suspension and brakes. Have a look at http://www.monarch-stags.co.uk/index.htmlAlloy hubs, brakes and struts on the front and a BMW transplant on the rear, with strut braces and so on will be good enough for what I want.I want my Stag to be an enjoyable road going GT cruiser that just happens to have plenty of grunt when it needs it. I'm not after a trackday car. If I was I'd buy a Lotus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Quote: Dedicated Strombergianof course you may have to change the title of you Avatar........ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Had a good look at all that, so thanks for the URL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 [quote by=Richard_B link=Blah.pl?b=stag,m=1167676068,s=14 date=1167817264]of course you may have to change the title of you Avatar........ :)[/quote]lol, that's true "Dedicated EFIist" doesn't sound so good :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volospian Posted January 3, 2007 Author Share Posted January 3, 2007 [quote by=GTEVO link=Blah.pl?b=stag,m=1167676068,s=15 date=1167818084]Had a good look at all that, so thanks for the URL.[/quote]There are other places that do similar items if you look around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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