frenchiemk2 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Hi, Any of you have those Lucas yellow beams caps X4 5 1/2 for 2000 2500 Stag? In search of 2 pairs as i don't want to tint the genuine clear beams. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 France instituted yellow headlights over eighty years ago. It was either so that the French Army could see if the Germans were moving at night or else for the Germans to see if the French Resistance were about, stories vary! But got rid of them in 1993. Do you want to - can you legally? - still use them? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 14 minutes ago, JohnD said: Do you want to - can you legally? - still use them? Yellow bulbs are still available legally, so I guess the covers would be. But why would a French car fit covers rather than have had yellow bulbs ? Are those yellow covers really ones designed to convert RHD beams to LHD beams for Brits coming to France? As for why they were introduced a more mundane answer is that they dazzle oncoming drivers less that white and better in fog. When I moved here (1994) they were still common, they have gradually disapeared and there was even a time when yellow bulbs that blew were replaced by white and it was quite common to see a car with one of each. More fun was when the French changed the law about priority at roundabouts, but that is another story . . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchiemk2 Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 44 minutes ago, JohnD said: France instituted yellow headlights over eighty years ago. It was either so that the French Army could see if the Germans were moving at night or else for the Germans to see if the French Resistance were about, stories vary! But got rid of them in 1993. Do you want to - can you legally? - still use them? John Hi, What i learnt is here in France government chose yellow light because it's easier to see on snowy landscape (yes... no comment). Well as main laws are not retroactive, you are allowed to still use yellow beams even now and no one will check the conformity/model. I had 3 Scirocco Mk1 having 4 yellow tinted beams... All i want, is to make an easy old looking car, reminding sports cars of the 70'S on meetings (Wheels, exhaust, spoiler, beams and bumpers off)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ridley-Jones Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Try fleabay https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=yellow+headlight+convert&_sacat=0&_odkw=troumph+tr8&_osacat=0 first holiday to France in the 1960s, headlights were painted yellow. Subsequent holidays left as white and apart from a few locals flashing, but soon stopped when full white beam returned, nothing ever happened! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchiemk2 Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 5 hours ago, Brian Ridley-Jones said: Try fleabay https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=yellow+headlight+convert&_sacat=0&_odkw=troumph+tr8&_osacat=0 first holiday to France in the 1960s, headlights were painted yellow. Subsequent holidays left as white and apart from a few locals flashing, but soon stopped when full white beam returned, nothing ever happened! yep, tired to pay much for postage and fees... 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Voilà! https://fleasting.com/film-teinte-phare/86-5128-film-jaune-phare-et-feux-voiture-moto.html#/103-dimensions_film_pour_feux-03_cm_x_1_m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I’ve got a pair I don’t use (I have a set of continental units off my Landy I swap over when I go) … if you are still interested I’ll dig them out and see if they are still serviceable 👍🏻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 29/03/2024 at 12:34, frenchiemk2 said: Hi, What i learnt is here in France government chose yellow light because it's easier to see on snowy landscape (yes... no comment). Well as main laws are not retroactive, you are allowed to still use yellow beams even now and no one will check the conformity/model. I had 3 Scirocco Mk1 having 4 yellow tinted beams... All i want, is to make an easy old looking car, reminding sports cars of the 70'S on meetings (Wheels, exhaust, spoiler, beams and bumpers off)) The French govt were right … it does !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchiemk2 Posted March 31 Author Share Posted March 31 14 hours ago, 65redspit said: The French govt were right … it does !! It does but most time weather clear and more difficult to see at night and particularly when raining at night. We were so happy to change the bulbs... Then we eventually discovered that even clear beams were poor and it was not only a matter of color... 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT64fun Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 29/03/2024 at 12:01, Rosbif said: they dazzle oncoming drivers less that white Perhaps they should be mandatory on all modern vehicles then! Ian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Darren bought us both a pair of amber wrap around anti glare glasses, they’re great 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Don't want to appear jaundiced, but.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 You do have to remember to take them off 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Ridley-Jones Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Sorry to burst the snow glare bubble, but it was in fact for improvements in visibility under conditions of glare, and, even more important, reductions in fatigue under glare conditions. Whilst snow may come into that, it was the other 360 days that they were considering! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 10 hours ago, Brian Ridley-Jones said: it was the other 360 days that they were considering! And they just wanted to be different 😁 vive la difference! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 30+ years ago when I first started venturing into France in a Triumph, I used to buy a little bottle of "paint on yellow" that was readitly available at the time. Worked a treat and cleaned off easily with white spirit up my return LINK! A quick google would seem to imply that it's still readily available... I assume you want these covers for aesthetic reasons rather than compliance? If for compliance, why not just pick up a set of LHD 5 1/4" Cibies or similar? Edited April 1 by mikeyb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchiemk2 Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 51 minutes ago, mikeyb said: 30+ years ago when I first started venturing into France in a Triumph, I used to buy a little bottle of "paint on yellow" that was readitly available at the time. Worked a treat and cleaned off easily with white spirit up my return LINK! A quick google would seem to imply that it's still readily available... I assume you want these covers for aesthetic reasons rather than compliance? If for compliance, why not just pick up a set of LHD 5 1/4" Cibies or similar? Exactly, just for aesthetics : i want a 70's french racing look on a racing green Triumph. Already has french alloys, soon an exhaust with conic tip (Devil like). So the beams must be somehow yellow but i don't want to varnish them and be quickly reversible ( i arlready bought a PEBEO yellow varnish for a second set of KOITO beams i had formerly) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 4 hours ago, frenchiemk2 said: a 70's french racing look on a racing green Triumph. ????? The French racing colour is BLUE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 21 minutes ago, JohnD said: ????? The French racing colour is BLUE! Not at all. It is actually 'Bleu de France' Or if you prefer, a Norman. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchiemk2 Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 2 hours ago, JohnD said: ????? The French racing colour is BLUE! I don't want an Alpine look like 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Bleu de travail? Oh, come on! Alpine use blue BECAUSE it's French Racing Colour, worn by Ballot, Delarge, Bugatti, SEFAC, Delahaye, Talbot, Gordini, Matra etc etc etc, since long before even colour photography was possible! Alpine and Renault were late comers. See "French Racing Blue" by David Venables: Stella & Rose's Books : FRENCH RACING BLUE Written By David Venables, STOCK CODE: 1608560 (stellabooks.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 2 hours ago, JohnD said: French Racing Colour, Goes back much, much further - hence my photo of Le Roi ( royal blue), renamed by the revolution, the original term French blue refers to a particular way of dying fabric. As used by a fabric from Nîmes, d' Nîmes or in English denim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65redspit Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 6 hours ago, Rosbif said: Not at all. It is actually 'Bleu de France' Or if you prefer, a Norman. Those A210’s were beautiful 🤩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I don't think that Louis the Xteenth ever attended a motor racing event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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