Scimher Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 ..I have a 'deceased' rear offside wheel bearing..(&, no doubt, a ruined driveshaft to go with it.. )...I'm just wondering whether it would be worth getting these..eBay no. 201424189136 - sorry perhaps someone with more idea than me could post the link..My car is a late '64 Herald 1200 convertible registered early Feb. '65 - I have no idea whether they changed through the life of the cars & whether if these are '13/60' ones, for example, they would be interchangeable?Many thanks for any help & advice given.....Perhaps I should point out that the selfsame driveshaft & bearing was replaced new (from a reputable supplier) about 6yrs. ago.....& 17/18,000miles max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 http://www.ebay.com/itm/201424.....424189136%26_rdc%3D1They should be just fine. Only change I've ever been aware of (other than u-joint flange size, which does NOT affect the axle itself) is the longer axles on the later Spitfire and last of the GT6 models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 ....They're the little babies, Andy - thanks so much for posting the link & for your comments. The only thing that rings a distant chord is that the diameter of the driveshaft, itself, changed..(they were beefed-up.) during the life of the 1200....(unless I'm imagining it...)Will get my bid in..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Quoted from Scimher The only thing that rings a distant chord is that the diameter of the driveshaft, itself, changed..(they were beefed-up.) during the life of the 1200....(unless I'm imagining it...)Will get my bid in..... The driveshaft remained essentially unchanged throughout production. I suspect the change you're thinking of is to the differential output shafts, these were increased in thickness with the introduction of the 13/60, in turn commonised to late 1200s,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 ....Thanks very much, Bill - from a message from the vendor, I gather he's bought a couple of Triumphs from a deceased estate.....a 1500 Dolomite & a 13/60 Herald convertible, together with spare parts; so I assume these driveshafts to be 13/60.....I've won them so would guess that they both should be fitted, rather than just the offside one..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Axle and many half shafts develope a torsional memory, so keep the n/s on the n/s and the o/s to the o/s or you can end up with a bent one not long afterfitting it Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Quoted from Pete Lewis Axle and many half shafts develope a torsional memory, so keep the n/s on the n/s and the o/s to the o/s or you can end up with a bent one not long afterfitting it Or commonly with older live axles, a clean break. It's good advice to maintain the orientation of the shafts, something which is all too rarely mentioned with 'our' cars,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 ...Thanks Pete & Bill for responding - still a bit confused though......do your comments mean that both the acquired driveshafts should be fitted or can I get away with just the defective offside - (they're 'handed' aren't they 'cos of the brackets so there is no question of fitting them the opposite way around...)..??Sorry if I'm being completely thick or obtuse here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 if the back plate /trunnion / and upright are fitted this 'hands' them if its a bare axle shaft you cant tell as both are identical .pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 ...They're complete with drums & ironmongery mountings attached etc. etc., Pete......Thanks for the clarification.Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Quoted from Scimher do your comments mean that both the acquired driveshafts should be fitted or can I get away with just the defective offside No need to change both at the same time. Although I would say fit new brake cylinders or use the ones already on your car if they are known good.Also check the state of the U/J's before fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 ......That's good, Richard, as I'll have to pay my professional pal to do it....I'll get him to change over the brake shoes etc. as they were new not so long ago...(Thanks for your reply...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Remember that the driveshaft UJ has to be set VERY tight, so the shaft will stand upright on it's flange without toppling. Anything less and you need to look at replacement, or at the very least using oversize circlips to eliminate the play,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 ....Thanks Bill - I shall copy your kind response word-for-word & give it to my pal Andy who has been tasked with doing it as the old gal is my normal daily runabout....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Quoted from Scimher ....Thanks Bill - I shall copy your kind response word-for-word & give it to my pal Andy who has been tasked with doing it as the old gal is my normal daily runabout....... http://www.rarebits4classics.net/#!hints--tips/cdwhCheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 ....Thanks for the link, Bill. Talking of links, if you have a moment to check the eBay link above in an earlier post, the intention is to fit the 'leg' in its entirety which, I assume, will mean no messing around with UJs - unless, of course, the one fitted to the replacement unit is defective......Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I lean towards changing the UJs and trunnion bushes as a matter of course, though getting correct bushes has become a problem. The UJs may well be OK, but pump fresh grease through and articulate them well to see what the old grease is like when it's forced out. If it looks like it's been in there a long time, assume the joint is past it's best. Dismantle the bushes and assess them at the very least, about 70% of those I deal with have to be cut apart through seizure. The pictured shafts look clean so hopefully well maintained,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scimher Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 .....Thanks, as ever, to you Bill - will take your hard-earned advice on board & pass it on to my pal........Kind regards,Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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