Toledo Man Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 As some of you may know, engine torque rods stop the engine rocking back and forth when it is running. They have rubber bushes at each end. It is always the big ones nearest the engine that have excess play presumably due to the viration of the engine. This results in the car shuddering when setting off. While I had Becky II on the wheelramps torquing up the anti-roll bar and lower suspension arm bolts I checked the engine torque rods and found excess play. Ideally, they should be replaced but as a temporary fix I removed the bushes, wrapped electrical tape around the edge to take out the play, refitted them, torqued them up and hey presto, a result! The shuddering is a lot less than before! An easy fix which didn't cost me a penny.Is there an alternative part which would fit? I read somewhere that one of the Range Rover bushes could be used in place of the original. Can anyone confirm this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 Sounds as ie the jobs a good 'un!I can't give you an answer - B's yer man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted August 14, 2011 Author Share Posted August 14, 2011 I've just had a look on the TSSC forum and it is a Range Rover radius arm bush. I've also had a look on Rimmer's website and the closet match I could find is the front radius arm to axle bush which is part No. NTC6860. Can anybody confirm this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 The Guru said the Rover 213 uses the same bush. Andy Ellis reckons a Rover 800 bush would be the same. I'll have to take one along to a local stockist to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 I know this is a long time ago, but did anyone follow it up as I've got to get mine done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted March 29, 2012 Author Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm going to put my money where my mouth is and try one out. I won't get a poly one is it will just tansmit the noise and vibration. There are a couple of Landy specialists in West Yorkshire so I can rob one from Becky and take it along to compare. The original part number is BNP2831. A Google search came up with a possible source. I'll follow this up later on.Watch this space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I'm watching.... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 I've found a possible supplier and I've sent off an e-mail.I'm going to explore the Range Rover bush option tomorrow at my local Landy dealer (Simmonites). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 I forgot about going to the Land Rover dealer (I went right past it today!).The supplier has replied to my e-mail. Apparently it is the same part as one of the Rover 800 bushes which ISTR was mentioned somehwere along the line. The part number is DCP7123 which is the same part as on the early Rover 827. Rimmer Bros sell this part for the same price as what I've been quoted. I've replied asking if they can offer it to me cheaper and what the minimum quantity would be.I've just seen one on eBay so I've gone and bought it. I said I'd put my money where my mouth is. Worth a punt at £6.24 which includes the postage for a genuine MG Rover part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Sounds like it could be good news... I wonder what else is "shared" with other BL stuff (as opposed to Honda!)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 The part arrived today so I fitted it and it is an EXACT match. I swapped the rear one which had my temporary fix done on it. Just need to source some more and replace the front one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 4993 wrote:Sounds like it could be good news... I wonder what else is "shared" with other BL stuff (as opposed to Honda!)?The Rover 827 is actually a rebadged Honda Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood blatter beast Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 got the rr poly bushes in mine cured it completely has done over 40000 on them and are as good as the day they went in unlike the standard item Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Man Posted April 11, 2012 Author Share Posted April 11, 2012 I don't suppose you know the RR part number by any chance do you? I'm still going to explore this option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Acclaim Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Toledo_Man wrote:I don't suppose you know the RR part number by any chance do you? I'm still going to explore this option.Did anyone establish the RR part number? Or at least the exact model/year? I have checked out the Rover 827 option, and there is nothing yet... Rimmers out of stock (or no longer sell) Ebay also has none, Rover 213 and 800 didn't come up trumps either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-DCP7123Might grab a couple myself for when I need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Acclaim Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 ferny wrote:http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-DCP7123Might grab a couple myself for when I need them.Yeh, these are not in stock, It gives you an option to back-order, but whether that'll be any good I don't know...ALSO Ferny.... I need the front AND back stabiliser mount - does the above part from Rimmers fit both? or is it just for one?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_343 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-TORQUE-ROD-INSULATOR-A-ACCORD-CIVIC-PRELUDE-/270666996672as ive never seen one in the flesh outside the engine bay does the one on eBay look right? and if so then the one below should be suitable and in stock.http://www.hondapartsnow.com/genuine/honda~insulator~torque~rod~50834-SA0-010.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Acclaim Guru Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Try wrapping the bush with a bit of bicycle inner tube and squeeze the bush back in. Works a treat. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Acclaim Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Barry_McGrath wrote:Try wrapping the bush with a bit of bicycle inner tube and squeeze the bush back in. Works a treat. BThank you for the tip Barry... your not the first person to mention this method, but would you mind having a look at the bush above to tell us if they would fit? thanks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logicaluk Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 i did find one from that nearley fitted from a petrol freelander i think, its about 10mm too long but apart from that it did fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Acclaim Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 logicaluk wrote:i did find one from that nearley fitted from a petrol freelander i think, its about 10mm too long but apart from that it did fit. We have located the real McCoy! Honda Civic came up trumps, from USA :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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