Jason Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Anyone got one for a Lucas dizzy? I'm suffering from a lack of clearance, it's not critical but would be a "nice to have" - I believe these were fitted to Standard Vanguard sixes or possibly early 2000's Ta ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Why not ignition leads with a 90 deg bend at the dizzy end... like PI's are meant to have??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 Why not indeed? Probably because side entry was the spec for the World Cup cars and it's different :-) Or maybe because I hadn't really thought of angled leads! <Duh>I notice you've got single balance pipe throttle bodies and each one has a vacuum take off, If the rear one is to the metering unit and teh middle is for the recirculating rocker breather, what's the one at the front for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Vacuum advance (not utilised) being the manifolds off a 71 Pi with vacuum advance unlike TR's and late Pi's.In fact I just have a little rubber cap for it and remove it to up the tickover if I start the engine cold whilst working under the bonnet ..Thinking of linking the three outlets together to equalise vacuum... or at least experimenting to see if makes a difference...(seriously looking at Ford distributorless ignition with MAP sensor like Mr Sideways and Josh to get the engine singing even better)BTW does Dave have any spare manifold alignment Jigs or would it be possible to reproduce one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 I don't think Dave has any spare, it would be possible to reproduce but it wouldn't be cheap - what do you think the market is like for them? I mean what would people pay? Suppose some laser cut steel and accurate holes to attach the dowels and it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Jase,Looks like a quality set of leads are required- I fitted a set of NGK blue leads to my GT6 in '86 and they are still doing fine. Seems like the only decent ones available are Magnecor- bit priccy though- any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david langrick Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 i have magnecor on the Maiden , They are good , supplied by James S. Angled tops , no bonnet clearance issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 James S? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Jason in answer to your pump cavitation issues... simple really... big bore fuel lines + a BOSCH.... Triumph pumps are just silly with todays fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 I'm just bloody minded about the Lucas pump - it should work and can be made to work so I am going to make the damn thing work :-)I also want to keep the car basically period and try and use things from the Triumph parts bin of the day - ie Pre 1970. These are my rules and I'll break them when I need to. I have another 6 pot with all the modern bits on that I can use for any new ideas.Your comment on fuel line interests me - what do you call "big bore"? I'm running a "T" piece to take the metering unit spill back in to the standard Vitesse fuel line out of the tank - that T was a little smaller bore than we wanted but it was all that was to hand. It's also a syphon feed tank rather than a drain feed - not too much I can do about that without major tank surgery. Wehn I do the twin tank set-up I'll probably make something better - need to find another Herald tank, one of the free ones Bill donated was too far gone to be of use, the other's fine though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 If you want to stick with Lucas... best of luck mate..I will give you a massive tip though. If you're sticking with period parts get a very efficient (and preferably good as new) SU electric pump (JAG? they do 8 mpg with one pump) to fit as a feeder pump for the Lucas jobby (some would call it a Big Jobby) ... try to find one that will flow MORE than the Lucas (gph) and hence get positive pressure on the inlet side.This should solve any cavitation issues... it worked for me in Australia and +40deg heat for a year or more before I could afford a decent pump ;DThe big bore hoses were for the tank to pump if you use a Bosch althoughh by the sound of it you need armoured hoses to the MU ;)... thats what I use in the interior... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 James S= James Shackford- Grey 2.5Pi mk1with minilite reps:(Nice cars these slate ones!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Another Dreadnought then Tim :-) I know the guy, punts out some Ali bits occassionally at the shows?Andy - do you mean just connect up an SU pump to positively pressurise the inlet for the Lucas pump or to charge up an accumulator/sump/swirl pot type thingy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Just to keep a 3 way thread going with the wrong title ;DJames S... I have a photo of his car in 1989 at the 2000 national totally mint and original... Chris Lennard has the sister car... bought off an old geezer in Dorset who bought two Mk1 PI's new and used them in turned... sold them both in the late 80's with 76000 miles each :PFuel pumps... yes pressurise the PI pump... use a decent wire + relay or the Lucas pump will "pulse" with the SU ;)...Should fix the cavitation ... in theory you don't need to run it all the time as the SU flows fine when not running... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Right Andy, I get it - big Jag SU pump and a switch with relay and heavy duty wiring for use in the summer months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Stag one might do the trick but I think the Jag ones are mostly double ended (oo err :D ) ie two solenoids .... at least the ones in my mates V12 are... that can definitely deliver enough !!!!They are mighty expensive new and as about reliable as a Lucas one when the points get shitty... new ones have a solid state thingy for the points... why not use your old electric pump? Or is that not period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Andy: James' 2.5 is currently having a new front wing and doors- put it against a wall at Donnington at the Track day we all attended. Its entered for the RBRR- hopefully looking 'spick and span'!On the subject of grey Pi's (not grey urine), I know of 4 such cars: James', Adam Chignell's, mine and the ex Pearson one that is not situated in Norfolk under going a full resto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Old Facet red top fuel pump definately not period :-) Bloody noisey too! I recall those SU pumps from my dark days with Morris Minors, you have to hit it with a suitable heavy object - my Mum used to keep a hair brush in the boot solely for that purpose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Thought they were a bit priceyhttp://www.burlen.co.uk/sidelinkSearch.aspx?sideLinkID=70Apparently the best one is for rollers and Bentleys ;D ;D... up to 30 gph... that should be more than even a PI is capable of..... in reality you need one that can exceed the Lucas pumps requirements... anyone know what a Lucas can pump in an hour at 105 psi?http://www.burlen.co.uk/sidelinkSearch.aspx?sideLinkID=68In reality the 3rd one down here is probably fine 15 gph is more than a PI will use at 100mph and not TOO expensive + soild state rather than points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Hmmm Burlen site server is down to me :-(Anyone ever used these guys http://www.kinsler.com/ loads of kit, looks expensive but I've yet to actually find any prices! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Seems to work alright from Oz... wierd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Well it coughed and spluttered now has burst into life :) The web site that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 The side entry cap which started all this looks like it's part number GDC101, commonlynused on Austin Healey 3000 from 1963-68. Not something I keep in stock, but it shows as a regular item with several suppliers I deal with. If you can't get one from your local Healey specialist then let me know,Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 3, 2006 Author Share Posted July 3, 2006 Thanks for bringing us back on topic! Oh and how did we miss each other yesterday?Do you know if that's a screw in type of the more usual push fit type ie a straight swap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I "think" it's a straight swap, but I have recently discovered other oddities with cap applications. The dates of the applications suggest that this fits the same distributor body, earlier types have different LT wire fittings.Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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