Dan Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Good Morning boys and girls, I'm in need of some help, I purchased a 1963 Herald 1200 last year and I'm currently restoring it, but I noticed a two shades of grey on one of the chip and this got me thinking about the colour. I've done some digging and I understand that the GA is Herald 1200 and the DL is Saloon which checks out but I cannot fathom out the number, as I'm let to believe it should indicate base colour then shade and if there is a secondary colour and well my number on the VIN doesn't follow this logic. Mine is White over Grey, and the lady who I purchased it from advised it was Phantom grey, but I'm not sure. So my question is can I find out how my car left the factory as I would like it to be finished as per factory. Many thanks in Advance Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Not 100% sure about Heralds and their ID plates, but paint and trim are not (to my knowledge) part of the commission number, but (on some vehicles) separate on the ID plate: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standardthread Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 55 minutes ago, Dan said: Mine is White over Grey, and the lady who I purchased it from advised it was Phantom grey, but I'm not sure. So my question is can I find out how my car left the factory as I would like it to be finished as per factory. Phantom Grey is probably correct, it was a Standard/Triumph colour at the time. Our Standard 10 Companion was built in Oct 1960, same colour. The white is probably Nimbus White. Again our Standard is two tone and those are its colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 You could get a heritage certificate giving all the build details, that should confirm exactly how it left the factory https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Two tone herald have 2 paint numbers, ie mine is cactus over olive and has paint codes 15 & 35 on the vin plate. you can google paint codes on this site www.spitlist.info/paint.html I have photographed the codes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
standardthread Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Follow Clive's suggestion of contacting the museum for the codes. If it turns out your colours are Phantom Grey and Nimbus White when we first got the Companion Craftmaster Paints have the codes and mixed us the paint. All was well until a local Neanderthal poured paint stripper all over the car (and got away with it) so we had to repaint the car again. To cut costs, and because modern paint suppliers don't have all the codes I colour matched the grey to a RAL colour RAL7011 You could do the same for the white using swatches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 Great advice by all and will follow up this end. Many thanks for everyone's input its really appreciated. Busy winter ahead. Kind Regards Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) A mammoth restoration task but will be a lovely car when it’s done. It looks original colours to me . Lovely combination the vin plate will show 2 paint codes as per photo of my car vin plate the two numbers show the colours on the car and can be matched to the photos of triumph paint codes I posted earlier hope this helps Edited September 22, 2023 by Wendy Dawes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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