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Hi. All I’m new to this club and I own a triumph herald and the sunroof needs replacing . I can see that there is runners head lining extra. Is there any advice on the best way to go about it. Or plans photos of how to do it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 

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Sorry cant help on the job but first have you sourced a new sunroof as they are horrendously expensive! Even second hand they are so sought after that even in only reasonable condition they go for hundreds...

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Hi Steve  May I suggest you find a local car trimmer to do this as it’s very specialised and the  sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly  on its runners or in the car roof frame,   As long as the actual sliding  sunroof frame  is in good condition a trimmer will do this quite easily , not sure of cost but I suspect around £200/£250  

Removal is quite easy, undo it at the front, open it 1/3rd  of the way, undo the retaining screws at the back,  open it again but only from one side so it ‘twists’ on the frame then you can just lift it out . Hooe this is of some help  installation is simply  the reverse 

 

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On 27/03/2024 at 12:11, Wendy Dawes said:

Hi Steve  May I suggest you find a local car trimmer to do this as it’s very specialised and the  sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly  on its runners or in the car roof frame,   As long as the actual sliding  sunroof frame  is in good condition a trimmer will do this quite easily , not sure of cost but I suspect around £200/£250  

Removal is quite easy, undo it at the front, open it 1/3rd  of the way, undo the retaining screws at the back,  open it again but only from one side so it ‘twists’ on the frame then you can just lift it out . Hooe this is of some help  installation is simply  the reverse 

 

Hi., Dawes. Your probably right but I will have a look if I think i can’t do it ill let them. 

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On 28/03/2024 at 11:07, Steve AKA vitessesteve said:

Here are some pages from a Triumph Training booklet that show the sunroof.

 

Pages from Triumph Service Training Notes Herald Body_Page_2.jpg

Pages from Triumph Service Training Notes Herald Body_Page_3.jpg

Pages from Triumph Service Training Notes Herald Body_Page_1.jpg

AKA hi.  I did see this when I was looking around in the internet. It’s a pity that I can’t zoom in clearly . But thanks for putting it up for me . 

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On 27/03/2024 at 11:10, glang said:

Sorry cant help on the job but first have you sourced a new sunroof as they are horrendously expensive! Even second hand they are so sought after that even in only reasonable condition they go for hundreds...

Hi. I already got one with the car but haven’t undone it yet so not sure of condition.

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On 27/03/2024 at 11:10, glang said:

Sorry cant help on the job but first have you sourced a new sunroof as they are horrendously expensive! Even second hand they are so sought after that even in only reasonable condition they go for hundreds...

Got one with the car so hopefully in good condition . 

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On 27/03/2024 at 12:11, Wendy Dawes said:

Hi Steve  May I suggest you find a local car trimmer to do this as it’s very specialised and the  sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly  on its runners or in the car roof frame,   As long as the actual sliding  sunroof frame  is in good condition a trimmer will do this quite easily , not sure of cost but I suspect around £200/£250  

Removal is quite easy, undo it at the front, open it 1/3rd  of the way, undo the retaining screws at the back,  open it again but only from one side so it ‘twists’ on the frame then you can just lift it out . Hooe this is of some help  installation is simply  the reverse 

 

Hi. Yes I was told but come across the car with one with it . That’s what made my mind up to buy it. 

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They all need more work than you think once you get them home,  I’ve had mine since 2020 and still needs work, just taking the engine out for a rebuild as  we think the big end bearing has spun 🙄  your car looked not too bad but the sunroofs are nearly ajways in need of repair,  I managed to get one on eBay but I did end up paying as much as it would  have cost to get mine re-covered. It’s a matter of getting your car how you want it and not how anyone else thinks it  should  be,  I’ve lost my patience on more than one occasion but I’ve still got Mabel lol ..  they’re old cars so we must try to preserve them .  I hope you have hours of fun and can withstand the odd  times when you might  feel a little frustrated . Keep going Steve 👍

 

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If you are interested, the current series of Dream Car Fixers features a Triumph Herald.  The presenters replace the soft top during the program and make it look quite easy !!! 😂 although I have suspicions about the authenticity of what they actually do.  In a different episode they refurb an original SU Morris Traveller fuel pump.  At the final reveal this has morphed into a very new looking replacement unit complete with a bright yellow SU sticker on it.🤔

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On 27/03/2024 at 12:11, Wendy Dawes said:

sunroof has tensioners along the sides which usually need replacing otherwise the roof will not sit correctly  on its runners or in the car roof frame

Hi Wendy. Do the tensioners apply only to the the earlier Britax sunroofs, eg, 12/50, which has four separate, bottom frame pieces? (rather than the 70's ones, which I gather are a one piece square section ?).

I have been slowly looking out for an earlier one (they seem much rare than the later ones) to fit to my 67 Vit Saloon, though if it doesn't happen, that's ok (just a perfection item) .

I did buy a later one and did some work on it, though sold it on, as the handle is so much more 70's, which I didn't quite like for this car.

Are the tensioners available new, do you know?

Thanks, Dave

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I only know from removal and refitting the one on Mabel my 1965 12/50, about the side tensioners  as far as I know they are renewed when the sunroof is refurbished or a new cover is fitted as original  ones are very weak webbing type fabric, so cord ones are usually the replacement,  don’t know about later ones . 

Don’t know about availability though but there is a company in Kings Lynn who might advise 

it’s MFR Classic cars 

01553 844004 or 07970 785284

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33 minutes ago, Wendy Dawes said:

original  ones are very weak webbing type fabric, so cord ones are usually the replacement,  don’t know about later ones . 

  • Ah, thanks Wendy. I'm aware of the tensioning fabric that runs in a channel, each side, in the top cover.
  • I was misunderstanding, thinking it was some metal bracing brackets that joined the main frame side sections, to the sides of the roof. I thought I once saw a diagram/picture of these (3 each side), though this could be by my imagination? 
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