Russell Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 In preparation for the 10CR, I’ve decided to enter a phase of gradual improvements on my MKII estate. Earlier in the month I bought a set of adapted Datsun drive-shafts and last Sunday fitted them. Only had a chance to take it on a quick 5 mile blast, but what a difference. None of that horrible delayed lurching when taking a roundabout at speed and no squirm when changing gear on a sweeping bend.I know my old ones probably would have benefited from a shot of grease, but hopefully these are fit and forget.Pics are below, although they’re not the most glamorous of subjects to photo – neither is the underside of my car.Next on the list, sort the appalling handbrake ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Looks good. Where do you get them from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Mine came off eBay, there's a chap that gets a set made up every now and again. They have larger UJs with grease nipples.Monarch Stags do them as well. More expensive, but they come with fully reconditioned hubs.Chris Witor used to supply them, but they seemed to have dropped off his price list now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desmk11 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 These are such a good investment.My car, 2000 mk11 saloon, originally had caravan rear spring assisted shocks and suffered because of the ride height.1 inch lower uprated springs and adjustable shocks were fitted and gave a considerable improvement but still not as good a standard as i expected.I purchased and fitted these roller bearing drive shafts and the whole car was transformed, it is now a well behaved sophisticated vehicle with no twitching, clonking or unwanted unpredictability. :)Not all cars suffer from bad spline lock, so might not suit everybody, but they get my vote everytime.Des. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDeTriomphe Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 RussellBanyard wrote:Mine came off eBay, there's a chap that gets a set made up every now and again. They have larger UJs with grease nipples.Monarch Stags do them as well. More expensive, but they come with fully reconditioned hubs.Chris Witor used to supply them, but they seemed to have dropped off his price list now.Chris explained to me that the problem is finding good s/h hubs to re-condition - he just doesn't have time to pull enough old shafts apart to find the few that are good enough to re-build. It's a great shame - I have one set that greatly improved my car and would like some more machined up but didn't know anyone else did the work. Do you have the name of the guy on ebay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 MarkDeTriomphe wrote:Chris explained to me that the problem is finding good s/h hubs to re-condition - he just doesn't have time to pull enough old shafts apart to find the few that are good enough to re-build. It's a great shame - I have one set that greatly improved my car and would like some more machined up but didn't know anyone else did the work. Do you have the name of the guy on ebay?He's tony_h123 on eBay. I've PM'd you with his details.Russell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 RussellBanyard wrote:He's tony_h123 on eBay. I've PM'd you with his details.Russell.That I would guess is Tony Hart of HArt Racing Services.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 thescrapman wrote:That I would guess is Tony Hart of HArt Racing Services.No, it's a coincidence. This chap is called Tony Hosker. Tony Hart's eBay shop is 'tonyhrs'. Can you tell I've been browsing for rear-end parts? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Are you sure it is not an Alias??Some of the traders have multiple accts.CheersColin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russell Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 thescrapman wrote:Are you sure it is not an Alias?? I don't think so, different areas of the country. Unless he is the master of disguise! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 ferny wrote:Looks good. Where do you get them from?Peter you cannot fit them to a MkI unless you also fit the MkII trailing arms and so widen the track.Mk I half-shafts are an inch shorter than MkII halfshafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenV8Machine Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 could the shaft not be shortened by an inch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Richard - wasn't planning on doing it myself, just wanted tobe nosey. although I was thinking ahead in case I ever need to rebuild the back. Oh dear, the tinker fairies have started already. Must resist, must resist. :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 GT6_User_and_Abuser wrote:could the shaft not be shortened by an inch?Don't know, they're a pain to dismantle. Actually they are on the limit with MKII trailing arms. I have heard reports of the pressed in shields at the back being pushed at extreme articulation. You could ask CW? I just went to the wider track, fills the wheel arches out nicely. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 ferny wrote:Richard - wasn't planning on doing it myself, just wanted tobe nosey. although I was thinking ahead in case I ever need to rebuild the back. Oh dear, the tinker fairies have started already. Must resist, must resist. :o ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDeTriomphe Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Richard_B wrote:Don't know, they're a pain to dismantle. Actually they are on the limit with MKII trailing arms. I have heard reports of the pressed in shields at the back being pushed at extreme articulation. I don't even think it's extreme articulation. I have a pair where this shield has just fallen out and am wondering about having a groove machined to take a circlip to hold it in. There are some Datsun shafts where the shield is more securely located (CW pointed this out on some he had imported from Aus). The pressed in shields are just not as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonypy2 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Hi,Been away for Christmas, so haven't been on the forum for a while - the e-bay supplier is me (Tony Hosker) not Tony Hart.Glad you liked them - I couldn't believe the difference on my Stag.Also yes they can be shortened but it involves quite a bit of work - not for the faint hearted:http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/bvillecar/construction%20page-23.htmlTony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie55 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 What a top job you did on these shafts. Excellent description too. Never seen an angle grinder used as a parting tool on a lathe. But it worked. Superb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedmonkey Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Love it ! brilliant - bow to the king of shed machining!I could do with a spare set for mine (I went the MK2 rear end route on my MK1 ) have you a set for sale? or any plans to knock out some more sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greeks Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 I'm using special UJs that enable you to fit the datsun part to the triumph part - "Tri-dat" as the supplier calls them. They're nearly 50 quid a pop, but seem to do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Keys Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 If i could find someone to do CV equipped driveshafts i will happily sell my Chris Witor Datsun ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonypy2 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I'll need to check but I think I've got two sets available at £300 + £15 p&p. I'd need your old shafts returning after fitting on an exchange basis. The shafts are stripped, cleaned, any missing spacers replaced, re-greased then built up with new japanese (GMB brand) ujs. I'd advise against it but if this is an issue I can strip and rebuild the hubs at additional cost and don't worry i don't use a press so no bent flanges.I'll be spending this weekend in the workshop so they'll be on e-bay within the next week or so if you're not interested - if you'd like to find out more my e-mail is tony@interactive-learning.info.Finally, it wasn't me with the angle grinder and the lathe merely an article I found on the web - although it's a very resourceful approach I wouldn't be comfortable with it...Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esxefi Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 ever thought about using sierra driveshafts,would need adaptors for flanges and maybe shafts shortened to fit,plus plenty about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDeTriomphe Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 roger_keys wrote:If i could find someone to do CV equipped driveshafts .... .Try here -http://www.tr-nord.de/portal/alias__Rainbow/lang__de/tabID__79/DesktopDefault.aspxThorsten (Sorry, I don't know his full name) had some made the right length for a MKII saloon/estate - I think he said a small batch had been made but they were beyond my budget :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedmonkey Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 esxefi wrote:ever thought about using sierra driveshafts,would need adaptors for flanges and maybe shafts shortened to fit,plus plenty about.Good point-any one explored this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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