Hettiherald Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Hi allHas anyone had any bad experience with replaicement engine mounts? I fitted new ones as my originals had started to break up, but vibration has increased and after About 1000 miles one has started to crack ( the rubber bit) . Is there any difference in supplies? I have made sure everything is in line and not touching anywhere, and have even fitted an O/D gearbox, but the vibration is the same. Am I just being picky??? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 It's not just you. Modern replacements are crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 It's a big problem, I'm not aware of any superior supplier,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hettiherald Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 Oohhh b-----. Never mind then, I will put up with the discomfort for now, and hope someone out there will start to make things to a good standard again, just like our triumphs!!!! ThanksDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordon T Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I thought it was just me experiencing problems!My engine mounts on my Herald 1200 were cracked, replaced them with brand new ones and now the vibration is extreme, and everything's rattling. Think i might put my old ones back on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I recently dissected some new engine mounts. Compared to what was coming through the system 5-6 years ago they are beautifully moulded and look like a much better product. Looks count for little though, I could cut straight through the rubber with a scalpel, the inside of the rubber has an open cells structure like a sponge. Little wonder they disintegrate so rapidly.I keep looking at making polyurethane engine mountings, but price is a big obstacle to many Triumph owners.Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I've got a home made one here but I'm reluctant to use it just in case it fails. I'm not massively keen on the solid ones I'm using but... they haven't broken (or broken the chassis, yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 heraldcoupe wrote:I keep looking at making polyurethane engine mountings, but price is a big obstacle to many Triumph owners.That's a typical almost-Catch-22 situation, one that seems all too common in the hobby these days. Even once you've demonstrated and proven the durability of such a part, you still need to find people who might pay 2-3 times as much for a part that will last many years instead of a few months. Oddly, there are many folks who will want to save every penny they can on certain parts, even if they're constantly replacing said parts! Go figure.... ??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 It's a real problem. Where I can produce everything in-house I tend to just go for it and take a chance. While I do all the polyurethane work myself, I would need to subcontract the metalwork, so there's an outlay to consider with some considerable test period before I am able to recoup anything.Each time I look at it I convince myself that there are safer returns to be found in other projects,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Can the metal from old mounts be "recycled" for new ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferny Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 But then you've got the get the old mounts off people before you start anything. Plus you have to remove the old rubber from them before they can be used. And when someone doesn't send their old mounts back to you as part of an exchange system you're back to square one. The only real way of doing it would be to team up with other sellers and get a large batch done, but in that instance the amount needed to be produced probably makes home creation unworkable and poor old Bill gets left out in the cold having gotten the ball rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 herald948 wrote:Can the metal from old mounts be "recycled" for new ones?I'd be quite happy to buy new mounts and strip the metal out of those, but I've not found an efficient way of removing the rubber. The material's been impervious to any petrochemicals I've tried, which leaves mechanical methods,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1360 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I know that it would be completely politically incorrect in these days of carbon emissions and the like but how about a big bonfire and burn the rubber off?John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephend Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I was thinking about the burning it off lark, but no doubt it could damage the welds on the matal work? I've got a new pair ready to go on the herald, after no luck trying to pick up a pair at staford, I may keep the old ones just in case the new ones are crap.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hammond Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 1087 wrote:I know that it would be completely politically incorrect in these days of carbon emissions and the like but how about a big bonfire and burn the rubber off?JohnSounds like fun! Thanks for the dynamo btw John. Not fitted it yet, may do that tomorrow!M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Burning off the rubber would work, but there are a few good reasons not to do it. Firstly, I'm not looking at a single pair of engine mountings. To make a set of moulds economically viable I would need to make 20-30 sets. Have you ever seen a traveller site bonfire when they're burning the covering off copper cable? It's not pleasant, and I've no intention of increasing the already high level of local pollution.Secondly, welded structures which are exposed to fire are incredibly difficult to prevent from rusting in future. Restorers are very reluctant to work on fire-damaged bodyshells for this reason. Perhaps being so concerned about a mere engine mount is alarmist, but what's the point in me making engine mounts which deteriorate rapidly? Someone else is already doing that,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Anyone seen the parallel thread on the 2000/2500/2.5 board?http://club.triumph.org.uk/cgi-bin/forum10/Blah.pl?m-1350986963/s-15/Maybe the company mentioned could do a a Herald version that would be Ferny proof! 8)Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hettiherald Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share Posted April 12, 2013 Just thought I would let you know that I have replaced the mounts with spitfire ones from moss. They seem a bit more flexible and don't have the rubber filling the the bit around the body mount side. Doesn't feel quite so harsh, but here's hoping they last a bit longer. Doing the HCR run this weekend, so hope they don't fall apart!Having had the wheels ballanced, I also found the rear tyres were oval, so it should be a bit smoother now . Dohhhh!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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