roger.england Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I bought some early Dunlop 5 1/2 J wheels for my Vitesse and was told that they needed tubes as they didn't have the "ridge" in the rim. When the tyres were fitted I was told that they couldn't fit tubes as they exploded because of the position of the valve hole in the rim - something to do with the offset and this was putting excess strain on the tube. So the tyres are now without tubes but I do feel a little uncomfortable about this. :-/Can anyone give me some wisdom on the rights and wrongs here please?Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 I/we have used these wheels for the past 30 years on many cars and have never used inner tubes. Feel any safer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 All Herald and Vitesse wheels are intended to be tubeless. There are different bead profiles used according to when the wheels were made. Most tyre fitters know nothing except the current applications, they assume that anything different is wrong.Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.england Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Very comforting - thanks both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Brings to mind the spotty tyre fitter who told me my 4 brand new (in boxes) alloy wheels were warped because he couldn't balance them after fitting the tyres. Luckily his boss heard him, apologised to me and frog marched the yoof off to show him how to fit tyres properly - came back and told me "No charge sir, I'll be taking him out the back for a sever kicking later".Apparently the cheaper the tyre the more out of balance they are - these were cheapo tyres going onto a Herald (hardly a speed machine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 mine are all goodyear tyres, and when i had one replaced they took the inner tube out and put it in the new tyre, thoght thit was a bit pointless to me, as airs in the same bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Tubeless tyres should not be fitted with tubes. The inside surface of tubed tyres is intentionally smoother to prevent abrasion between tube and tyre. Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldtom1985 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 You don't need any tubes in those. Most tubeless tyre will damage a tube if one is fitted inside it, So you have no need to worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger.england Posted February 23, 2007 Author Share Posted February 23, 2007 Thank you one and all - I'm assured of some good nights sleep from now on - that is until I find out how much more time the painter wants to finish the spraying car (3 weeks in and not primed yet!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 so the young one that put the tube back in my new tyre shouldent have done then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6DavidMK1 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 [. most tyre fitters know nothing except the current applications, they assume that anything different is wrong.cheers,bill.[/quote]Hi Bill,glad you said most ;)as I own a tyre and exhaust business and my manager has been fitting tyres for last 30 years he has a wealth of knowledge on all tyres and applications including classic'sDavid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 David, do NOT let that man retire, at least until he "trains" a replacement! It is sad to think how much of that type of knowledge has been lost (in part, I suppose, because of up-and-coming replacement staff not willing to listen to the wisdom being passed down).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 [quote by=GT6DavidMK1 link=Blah.pl?b=hervit,m=1172227907,s=10 date=1172269916]my manager has been fitting tyres for last 30 years he has a wealth of knowledge on all tyres and applications including classic's[/quote]...and I bet he shares my view of other people in the same line of work! :oGood tyre fitters are a rare breed, few of them stay in the trade long enough to gain real experience,Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardmidget Posted February 23, 2007 Share Posted February 23, 2007 Agreed- lots of *insert national company name here* fitters are fine at what they know, but when it comes to anything old or unusual, they're never sure... Anyone who lives near the Wirral should give Frank Bathers in Birkenhead a try- He just *knows* what tyres you're meant to have and whether you need tubes and whatnot... When I had the spitfire, I'd bought wolfrace slotmags to replace the knackered old wheels and took them down to Frank- I'd looked at the mintylamb calculator so I knew what I'd need, but without missing a beat he guessed perfectly. Legendary around our way but again, he's getting on and the guys who work for him are good, but not *that* good!(And no, I don't work in the Bathers' marketing dept. :P) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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