cbjroms Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I read another thread which mentioned the felt seals but did not want to hijack the thread.The replacement bearing that I am fitting comes with a felt seal and metal cup. I cant see the metal cup on the parts diagrams (eg Canleys) or Haynes manual. I understand from the previous thread that 'the felt seals can have oversized cup spacer's , the cup should be a light push,tap fit into the hub recess and then the felt rubs between the spacer and the stub axle as a grease seal. so sequence is bearing, cup washer, felt and not bearing, felt , cup washer'My question is whether the felt is best fitted dry as the Haynes manual seem to suggest that it be saturated with engine oil first?ThanksChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 you are spot on, there are some out there where the metal cup is much larger section and diameter is oversize, it just will not fit.if the old cup is still available re use itdont saturate the felt but a film on the rubbing faces avoids any felt getting 'picked up' if you happen to have bought some big uns carefully remove the felt as it tends to be glued in the cup and refit with the old original cuponly grease the bearing races and tracks do not fill the centre void with grease, this will retain more heat and does nothing for the tapered rollersset the end float to a firm hand nip on the castle nut then back it off 1 to 2 flats then insert a new split pin. there must be 0.002" to 0.008" bearing end float ( thats upto to 3mm rock at the tyre )to tight will seize the outer bearing rapidly, too much and the disc pushes the pads back and you get a low pedal if fitting new felts recheck the float after a few miles .Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 From that previous thread, I understand it as you say. The cup goes up against the bearing side, with the felt side against the vertical link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Lets hope my new cups fit, my old ones were no good and got binned!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davemate Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Like this !The new felt will compress over time but remember to check the bearing for the correct adjustment every couple of days until it does not any require adjustingOld felt nicely compressed after years of useNew seal awaiting to be compressed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudman Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Let's hope that that dodgy batch of oversized and so useless cups has now worked its' way through the system...! I threw away too many of them and now buy NOS from eBay when they appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npanne Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 The ones from Canleys fit perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Mine were from James Paddock.....anyone know if these work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbjroms Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Does the felt need to be glued to the cup? Mine are from Paddocks as well and the felt is not fixed to the cup.Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 My ones from Paddocks, have only 2 spots of glue. I don;t think its critical to have glue on it, just helps whilst fitting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I agree with mazfg just keeps them together Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 peterhlewis wrote:only grease the bearing races and tracks do not fill the centre void with grease, this will retain more heat and does nothing for the tapered rollersJust been reading the manual and it says pack the space between the outer rings with grease and smear grease over the outer rings. Are you saying not to fill that space then now Pete?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dar Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 its a wast of time filling the center of the hub up with grease, it dose nothing ,just run grease into the bearing before you stick it in the hub, so i agree with pete on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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