Paul S Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 the o/s inner wing... the deflection inboard is about 1 " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 from the outside.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Oh dear! That looks terminal! Photos always make rust look more prolific than reality but were they rotten? Guess you didn't have a strut brace - now I know why rally cars have em!My commiserations to you sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 the pics don't show the 'domed' strut tops, nor the n/s inner wing/turret which has also moved, but to a lesser extent...and here's the o/s chassis leg from the front.. on the left of the pic is the box section which is the sumpguard front mount, and you can just see the hole where it's ripped metal out of the chassis leg...at least I know my welding was strong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 Thanks, currently assessing it all...they weren't massively rotten...but they weren't rot free either, had been patched a few times before I got her.. yup, I never thought a strut brace that essential on the TR, as it's so much more substantial than previous cars I've used, but, all it takes is one heavy landing (or 5 consecutive ones in this case).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR Tony Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 That must have been some landing or five, Paul. I bet that rattled your fillings!Is it just the shell that is a write off? Can you salvage the mechanical stuff towards another car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 aye, it was a bit of a heavy one... :'( All the mechanicals look pretty much ok amazingly! the n/s strut casing or stub axle may be bent though, not sure until I get it off and check it, but that's not a big problem, can get a new strut casing, and put the 21/4" coilover bits on the new one... rest of the mechanicals are all fine, the shell was the worst bit of the car! Quick brainn dump of Spec of the car was:1998cc 16v. 5spd LT77 gearbox. Standard Sprint engine with tubular SS manifold and skidded exhaust system. K&N filters on a pair of 1 3/4" SUs. New big end and main bearing shells. New timing chain, tensioner, & guides. New Spigot bearing. Good compressions on engine. New engine and gearbox mountings. New fuel tank (2 yrs ago). Uprated radiator with huge twin electric fans. Oil cooler. Uprated 'modern' alternator. Partially seam welded (for all the good it did!). Quickrack. Sumpguard. Adjustable spring seat 2 1/4" Coilovers on the front, 240lbs springs, nearly new Spax inserts. Anti-dive kit. Uprated subframe bushes. Uprated rubber TCA to A/R Bar bushes. M16 calipers with Capri Vented discs (nearly new) with M1144 pads. Custom made rear springs 220lbs 0.5" longer than std only done one event! Koni adjustable rear dampers. Poly bushes throughout rear axle. One brand new driveshaft in the backaxle (old one as a spare, turns out it was alright! ) Aeroquip brake hoses all round.. Halogen headlights. Six point rollcage (not MSA compliant with current regs). 3 point harnesses (aircraft buckle). Standard seats. Hydraulic handbrake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 One way or another I overlooked this post for a few days it seems ...Looks like one hell of a series of landings :oAm I right that the L-profile strip between inner and outer wing sheared off , or is it the (spot)welds between this strip and the outer wing that let go ?Really hope you find a replacement bodyshell somewhere (and a lot of time ;) ) to rebuilt the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 [quote by=Paul_S link=Blah.pl?b=tr78,m=1165948316,s=4 date=1165948873]... yup, I never thought a strut brace that essential on the TR, as it's so much more substantial than previous cars I've used, but ...[/quote]'t Kreng has some (paint)damage to the edge off the bonnet where it was "hit" by the frontwing during one off our "Nachtritten".This means the inside off the frontwing can easily move some 5mm inwards. That's why I decided to put a strutbrace in ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 Hi Theo-the spot welds sheared, although the wings were replaced by the previous owner, and it would now appear not a very good job was done! Sadly at the moment I'm really not sure what to do, have a lot of other things going on too, so my only immediate plan is to clean the mud off (!) and start stripping parts off (but only after the Landrover's MOT'd so I've something more practical than my daily driver-a Mk1 MR2 with an LPG tank in the boot!) once I re-arrange the cars on the driveway..Yeh, I do wonder if a strutbrace might have saved the shell (and some better welding ::) ) Annoying actually-all my welding held just fine (re-assuring!), but the Previous owners' all split..edit- by the way, on closer inspection it appears as though it wasn't all spot welds- it was riveted in places >:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Can the damage be rectified by realigning the strut towers or is the damage to large for big that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 I think it's too much-the inner wings have moved in by approx 1 - 1.5" with a big crease at the top, and moved up approx 0.5"... I would be loath to re-use those wings, the only way would be to replace the complete inner wing-and the rest of the shell just is not good enough to warrant the work (and money!)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 So the front chassis legs have probably suffered too ...Quote:and the rest of the shell just is not good enough to warrant the work (and money!)... and to sum it up, the shell is beyond economical repair :'(As for the rivets, every TR7 front wing has one rivet at the back. Probably to do with the production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 and here's some idea of how much neg camber is on the fronts now...now I've washed her, there's a lot of small creases in the inner wings, so I think it's bye bye to that shell for sure :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yes, a fair amount off neg camber :BShell looks rather bend from this angle ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted December 30, 2006 Author Share Posted December 30, 2006 Yup, she is a little bent :'( Ta for the email Theo, have replied ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 here's how it looks there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 and here's how she looks with the o/s/f outer wing off...and yes, it is that bad in realy life...lots of rot, and a PO had fitted a cover sill on the o/s, and 'twas all rotten behind the wing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 That shell surely needs some TLC or is it "past its prime" ;)And I thought the late FHC body shell I have lying around was bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted January 6, 2007 Author Share Posted January 6, 2007 was horrified wwhen I got that wing off Theo.... definitely time for the scrapyard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 After a lot of thinking, and investigation, I have (foolishly!!) decided to fix MAP's shell... It is all now bent back in the right shape, and I shall be using my 'spares' shell to donate all the good panels/metal that will be required to get her back on the road again... It'll be a lot of time and effort, but I currently have more time than money ( not that that is saying much! :P), so I'll hopefully be starting the letting in of new metal this weekend (weather permitting!)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 One way or another that sounds like good news to me ;)Good luck with the work .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted May 30, 2007 Author Share Posted May 30, 2007 Cheers Theo, although I might question my sanity! ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beans Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Naah ... don't worry to much about that ::)Probably lost the last bit when you bought a TR7 ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 Yup probably right there Theo!! Or maybe when I bought my first Dolly...or my first Spit! ;) ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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