Dannyb Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I have a metallic rattle coming from offside rear suspension (Spit 1500). Got the back up on axle stands wheels off. First thing its done me a favour as I notice rear Flexible brake pipe is weeping. Back to the rattle. I noticed the offside inner U clamp around the rear sping is split in half so suspect this is the noise. Can you buy these clamps or do I have to make one. I'm thinking of rebuilding the spring or should I just replace. Spring is 20 years old. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 If you can't find a new supplier for the clamp maybe try Dave at Spitfire Graveyard? If you go for a new spring be prepared to have to fit a lowering block to get the right camber/ride height. Even with the "correct" spring from a reputable supplier (not the 'bros) I still had to use a lowering block to get mine right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, yorkshire_spam said: If you can't find a new supplier for the clamp maybe try Dave at Spitfire Graveyard? If you go for a new spring be prepared to have to fit a lowering block to get the right camber/ride height. Even with the "correct" spring from a reputable supplier (not the 'bros) I still had to use a lowering block to get mine right. That's what I am worried about. Just got the car sitting right when I change the front suspension. I'll try the graveyard for the bracket. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Dannyb said: I have a metallic rattle coming from offside rear suspension (Spit 1500). Got the back up on axle stands wheels off. First thing its done me a favour as I notice rear Flexible brake pipe is weeping. Back to the rattle. I noticed the offside inner U clamp around the rear sping is split in half so suspect this is the noise. Can you buy these clamps or do I have to make one. I'm thinking of rebuilding the spring or should I just replace. Spring is 20 years old. Danny That clamp is machine riveted to the leaf. I seen the same on an old spring of mine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 Just talked to Dave at the Spitfire Graveyard. He says the brackets are riveted to the springs. So I'm now thinking of taking the spring off to refurbish it and weld the split on the bracket. Danny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy Dawes Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Maybe a used good spring might be an option 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 25/10/2023 at 10:14, Dannyb said: Just talked to Dave at the Spitfire Graveyard. He says the brackets are riveted to the springs. So I'm now thinking of taking the spring off to refurbish it and weld the split on the bracket. Danny You should be able to replace the rivet with a countersunk bolt/nyloc if you don't have rivets available. Making a bracket should be easy enough. I may even have an old spring section in the garage with one on, can have a look later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Clive said: You should be able to replace the rivet with a countersunk bolt/nyloc if you don't have rivets available. Making a bracket should be easy enough. I may even have an old spring section in the garage with one on, can have a look later Thanks Clive. That would be fantastic. And a good idea using a countersunk bolt. Danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 That any good? It is a longer leg version, but easy enough to.chop the excess off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 Clive thanks. I sent you a pm. Danny 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 My spring has now been taken apart and painted. The insulating buttons under the spring were well worn. In fact one was missing under the spring with the broken bracket. I count six. Rimmers catalogue says 4. I've ordered a set of polly pads which come as eight. Workshop manual does not say how many there should be. Danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyf Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Most spring have 4 of the thrust buttons per side (8 In total) The leaves (Leaf's?) fitted with them have a slight recess to accept them I've read some people use Deralin material instead of the original rubber, supposedly harder wearing? Regards Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 3, 2023 Author Share Posted November 3, 2023 6 hours ago, garyf said: Most spring have 4 of the thrust buttons per side (8 In total) With the Spit I have the main spring with the safety spring and 3 others which have the dimples to locate the pads. So 6 pads. I suppose the kit of 8 is for other Triumph models that have an extra spring perhaps. Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) Ok now found out where the other two buttons go after looking on YouTube it goes between main spring and safety spring. Never noticed this when dismantling mine must have been missing. Danny Edited November 4, 2023 by Dannyb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 7, 2023 Author Share Posted November 7, 2023 Update. After a touch of manflu I have now put the spring back together. Many thanks to Clive for supplying a replacement spring bracket. I have used Duraflex polyurethane spring isolators which were a bit of a pig as the buttons did not fit the dimples on the spring leaves. So I had to reshape the back of each button to fit. The spring is back in the car with new shocks and flex brake pipes. Now waiting for new bushes for the radius arms before I can get it back on the wheels. Danny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 @Dannyb let's hope when you get it back on the wheels and out on the road all this work has paid off and the rattle is gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, yorkshire_spam said: @Dannyb let's hope when you get it back on the wheels and out on the road all this work has paid off and the rattle is gone! I was thinking that. I'm also hoping the ride height is OK. When I did the front springs and spacers it was 23 inches to wheel arch on all four corners. I should know by the weekend. Danny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxofbits Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 24/10/2023 at 18:38, Dannyb said: I have a metallic rattle coming from offside rear suspension (Spit 1500). Got the back up on axle stands wheels off. First thing its done me a favour as I notice rear Flexible brake pipe is weeping. Back to the rattle. I noticed the offside inner U clamp around the rear sping is split in half so suspect this is the noise. Can you buy these clamps or do I have to make one. I'm thinking of rebuilding the spring or should I just replace. Spring is 20 years old. Danny Hi Danny If no joy there are a number of companies out there on the net who recondition and reset existing road springs. You might be lucky and retain equivalence of ride height across the back but if not you could send both springs off for reconditioning and fit as a balanced pair. Out of interest regarding your rear flexi-hose in particular , do you currently have your car MOT’d, as both the condition at the time, and potentially going forward, of the rear spring breakage and weeping brake pipe should have been red flagged upon inspection I would have thought? Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 Took it for a 5 mile twisty lane drive. Got back and measured ground to arch. Front still sitting at 23 inch. Offside rear at 23 1/2 inches with 1 deg negitive camber. Rear nearside 23 1/4 inches 0 deg camber. The annoying thing is the rattle is still there. I'm now thinking it could be the drivers inersia seat belt. It's not as smooth as the passenger one and clicks when smoothly pulling the belt which is type of sound Im earing. Not sure if they are serviceable. Danny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 I have a similar issue, and found the LH boot hinge was worn. Bought a new one, fitted. No different. Try swapping shocks over side to side. (again no difference here) I had the MoT man have a good look too, but he can't find any issues. Damn annoying. I guess I will find the issue one day. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyb Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Rattle now gone. Replaced inertia seat belts. 😁 So simple rattle has led me to renew rear suspension and brake pipes, all of which needed doing. Danny 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVD3500 Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Reminds me of a guy with a Porsche 924 who had a rattle and replaced the entire torque tube (924s are transaxle i.e. gearbox in the read motor up front) only to find out it was spare change in the ashtray. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 I'd think that was apocryphal if it weren't for many items from America in the "Just Rolled In" YouTube thread. EG: One minute in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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