Slimboyfat Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 With the demise of Quinton Hazel recently, and Schlegel Automotive Europe Ltd the two prime manufacturers of GT6/Vitesse rotoflex couplings what does the future hold for availabilty on these crucial parts?The contents of the Schlegal factory are being auctioned on-line as I write this (ends in a few hours). I wonder if the roto pattern equipment, moulds, and tools are in and amongst this lot? http://www.edwardsymmons.com/online-auctions?task=getitem&auction_id=284 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Well if there are no more being made :'(You will have to start making more CV kits. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Richard_B wrote:Well if there are no more being made :'(You will have to start making more CV kits. :-/...or put a bid in for the tooling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I would suspect the machinery is what the auctioneers are concentrating on, the moulds etc will be in the metal skip out the back as they have no value to anyone not in the know.:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimboyfat Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Already on the way to China then............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyf Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Slimboyfat wrote:Already on the way to China then.............Or India :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 What am I offered for some QH donuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Slimboyfat wrote:With the demise of Quinton Hazel recently, and Schlegel Automotive Europe Ltd the two prime manufacturers of GT6/Vitesse rotoflex couplings what does the future hold for availabilty on these crucial parts?The contents of the Schlegal factory are being auctioned on-line as I write this (ends in a few hours). I wonder if the roto pattern equipment, moulds, and tools are in and amongst this lot? http://www.edwardsymmons.com/online-auctions?task=getitem&auction_id=284 You dear boy now have an excellent market opportunity opening up before you both here, and in the USA.Mass produce the CV kits and get a good price point and you should be on to a sure fire winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Has anyone thought of approaching the Liquidator to see if the tooling could be purchased?If it was an essential part for a Big Saloon, I'd at least invest the time in a telephone call or too.Better to try and save the tooling now, than maybe have to remake it later.There's enough rotoflex car owners out there to at least justify the attempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I wouldn't even bother Mike.The difference in price point between rebuilding with high quality metalastic donuts and UJ's and a CV conversion is not that great. Even QH donuts don't last long enough IMO to be worth the constant drudge of replacing them - usually every couple of years. The unbranded el cheapos don't even last 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 hmmn what about 1300 front wheel drives, lotus's, Imps etc which I think all use the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 MikeyB wrote:hmmn what about 1300 front wheel drives, lotus's, Imps etc which I think all use the same?Dunno about the others, but many Lotii owners seem to plump for CV conversion these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gt6s Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 MikeyB wrote:, lotus's, Imps etc which I think all use the same?Lotus and Imps use a smaller donut.Laurence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 So what other essential and good quality QH parts will now become hard to get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 MikeyB wrote:hmmn what about 1300 front wheel drives, lotus's, Imps etc which I think all use the same?and the poor GT40 owners :'( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimboyfat Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 2729 wrote:So what other essential and good quality QH parts will now become hard to get?With the benefit of hindsight the writing was on the wall for QH (really Klarius Group) about 12 months ago.One by one after this date we started to loose availabilty on various product lines.The first to go was the clutch driven we use in the Type 9 conversions on the Spitfire 1500. That was a pain, but it got worse up to the point where we didn't get a single product line from the last order just after Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimboyfat Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 mikew wrote:Has anyone thought of approaching the Liquidator to see if the tooling could be purchased?If it was an essential part for a Big Saloon, I'd at least invest the time in a telephone call or too.Better to try and save the tooling now, than maybe have to remake it later.There's enough rotoflex car owners out there to at least justify the attemptThe tooling is about as much use as a chocolate fireguard in isolation.Unless you are prepared to keep the factory open, the experianced staff employed, and all that specialist equipment in situ that is currently being auctioned then it becomes unviable.Been there, done that, learnt the lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 So a serious blow to British classic owners, lots more Indian and Chinese crap instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 there still some moderns have em in the propshaft, or are they done away with now.so if some modern,ish still have em, what will they use.must say, that the amount of rear wheel drivers is getting less now thoughM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 2729 wrote:So a serious blow to British classic owners, lots more Indian and Chinese crap instead.I'm always more concerned by the German crap......Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I realize that the "OE" Trellborg/Metalastik couplings are (cough) very expensive, but they are still being made, are they not?As for QH, I will miss them, at least the QH of the 1960s and 1970s, back when a clutch from them was as likely to be Borg & Beck, a suspension bushing Metalastik and a bearing Timken or similar quality brand! Oh, and are there other current manufacturers of the front and rear trunnion bushing kits, which even recently seemed still to be of good quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69vitesse Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 £400 for OE donuts or £500 for a fit and forget alternative? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Not quite fit and forget, watch the boots-rubber will eventually perish.However I am very pleased with the Canley CV shafts, excellent bit of kit. Like the fact that it uses a bit of Triumph kit.Mine were one of the first sold, all been good and have been subjected to some serious use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npanne Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Sorry to revive an old(ish) thread - but was just wondering...What how can you distinguish one type of doughnut from another? I've got a couple kicking around that I picked up on a whim - one NOS (un-used), the other fitted but only run for a couple of hundred miles (apparently). I'm sure that I can see the word Metalastik on one - does that mean that it's an OE part, or are their "good" and "bad" versions of Metalastik parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Metalastik=good. as long as stored correctly etc and it is all minty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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