mazfg Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just cleaning up my driveshafts and decided to pump through grease as the stuff in there looks pretty black. I've noticed the oil flinger/ stoneguard has a gap around it of 3mm and I can see the metal oil seal. What should this gap be? Only wondering as I think it moved slightly away when grease pumping. I tapped it back a little but it caused the movement of the hub to become stiffer, so backed off and its moves smoothly again. I'm guessing this pushes against the oil seal now which in turn pushes against the bearing..causing a bit of stiffness. I can't see me closing the gap without the hub becoming stiffer.Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Yes that gap does look a bit large. I wonder if the grease you have pumped in has pushed out the oil seal so that its in contact with the flinger when you tap that back into place. Looking at the drawing the seal should just protrude from the housing when it has been fully knocked home against an internal shoulder.If you can get the flinger back a bit you should be able to check the seal and with a flat edge tap it back in if necessary. The only risk is that with the movement the flinger might loosen on the shaft..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 The other drive shaft has a similar gap too. the difference I've found is that this oil seal is now moving around the housing as opposed to the other which is fixed to it.... Rather loathed to start messing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 So, couldn't leave it alone. What seems to have happened (as you saud)is the oil seal has moved out and is snagging on the flinger. Will try n tap it away and then tap the seal back in. When i tap the seal in, should the seal be flush with the hub casing. ..ie. how far should it go in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It looks like the seal should stick out a couple of mm but anyway as you tap it in it'll come to a stop against the internal shoulder....Out of interest, was there much resistance as you originally pumped the grease in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 JUst a little resistance then the oil seal moved slightly followed by very black old grease. I pumped til the grease looked good.Looking at the other. .it also has a gap and I guess over time the seal has been pushed out through grease pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Reminds me that Id better do mine sometime soon! The seal certainly shouldnt touch the flinger which itself should be a mm or so clear of the housing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbif Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 My dad took me to see the film when I was young. I think it was the first James Bond film I saw.Ok I'll get my coat! ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Chances are that the oil seals have been put in the wrong way round. They are supposed to keep water from getting in and to let excess grease OUT.Have you checked inside the brake drums ?C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 No grease on the drums.Looking at a picture of an inner seal. It looks like it has 2 leather seals on each side of its casing. Can't see how it matters which way round it goes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 well my manual does talk about putting the seal in with the 'lips trailing' and if you look at the Rimmers picture here:http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID005909 it does look directional...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Quoted from glang well my manual does talk about putting the seal in with the 'lips trailing' and if you look at the Rimmers picture here:http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-GRID005909 it does look directional...... You're right..it does say that. I'll have a look tomorow and report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 The other thing is does it really matter? Would you dismantle the rear hubs and everything anyway? What about just pushing the seal in as far as possible, then slide the flinger along without making contact and getting on with enjoying driving it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Quoted from glang The other thing is does it really matter? Would you dismantle the rear hubs and everything anyway? What about just pushing the seal in as far as possible, then slide the flinger along without making contact and getting on with enjoying driving it..... of course. ..was never going to completely dismantle. Just going to tap flinger away from hubeing. .enough to then tap the seal back in and then tap the flinger back along. The bearings are all good anyway. Only brought to light due to the seal moving after pushing lots of grea see through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitumen Boy Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 After the last bearing change I found I'd buggered this part up to the point it was rattling loose on the shaft. I stuck it in place with a dollop of bitumen/fibre roofing sealant and let it cure for a few days before driving. No further problems, though I'll have to look at replacing the next time it's all apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mazfg Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 Flinger tapped back, oil seal now rseated ok and flinger found to also be rattling due to shaft taper.... I cleaned up, and pushed up against hub. dollops of glue gun around the fit, brought back by a few mm and then hot air gun to let it run in around fit. Plenty more glue gun aorund shaft above flinger (for good measure). Looks somewhat unsightly but it'll do the job 😀 and shaft spins nicely still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 job done! but I wouldnt go greasing it again anytime soon In fact now Im having doubts about doing mine..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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