Greeks Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 After slicing through the fuel hose on a branch a few weeks ago I thought I better have a look underneath the car and see what other damage lurks...Ouch - there's a few dents in the sump and even a nice one on the base of the oil filter!Anyone got any experience of making a sump guard for a saloon? Tips, hints, suggestions would be good - I'm particularly interested in getting something 'quick-release' made up to aid oil changes etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles H Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 On the rally car I use a sump guard from a Chicane which requires no holes drilled and is made to fit Mk2s. You need to trim the front section to fit on a Mk1. The Chicane is the South African built T2000 and to get around the regulations of a certain quantity of the car being built locally by weight, made a very heavy steel guard! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Any chance of a photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I have a template that Dave H made for me... I fancy making one out of aluminium... really just for looks :)Which bit needs trimming Charles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Can you get me a copy of the template James please? I feel the need for a couple of these :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Sure :)Can you make me one while you're at it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I think I spot a business opportunity for someone here.Can I have mine in Titanium please... :-)Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 If enough wanted them I could easily get them laser cut... bending them... not so sure about - need the original for that I think... otherwise difficult to get a curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I'd be interested if you can get them laser cut in aluminium, possibly two.Shall we create a list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I'll have to find the details of the place that I found last year... the more the better - it's an expensive process for one offs - but multiples it gets much much cheaper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedmonkey Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 If you go for an Ally sump guard it needs to be at least 6mm+ thick and dont have any welded joints on it tend to smash and breakI used 4mm thick steel on the taxi- two sections- front section protects the sump etc -rear section protects gearbox etc,mounts welded onto chasis Always put some foam or similar between the sump and guard to stop stones sitting between the two waiting to get smashed into the sump pan when you land heavy on the sump guardThe best bit about putting a guard on its taking the car out and trying to test it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Might be a nice thing to have, I always feel "vulnerable" on those alpine roads when there's rock fall debris in the road and you have no choice but to just drive over it :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I just want mine to look rallyrific because I am a tart - but some protection would help...I don't mind knocking it up in AutoCAD if there is a demand :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 jcarruthers wrote:I just want mine to look rallyrific because I am a tart - but some protection would help...Your right of course James, if your a tart you must use protection....better safe than sorry ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenV8Machine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 If you wanna mail me the drawing ill see how much I can get some cut for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 The issue will be bending them - we need an orginal to bend them round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenV8Machine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 got a pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahtuning2000 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I,ve still got the genuine Chicane sumpguard,its going on my Shed,its actually not as easy as it seems to make!!!But mine is tatty and suits the car perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 sahtuning2000 wrote:I,ve still got the genuine Chicane sumpguard,its going on my Shed,its actually not as easy as it seems to make!!!But mine is tatty and suits the car perfect!Show us a picture!........please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Try these - I think they are Dave's sump guard anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 That looks quite thin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedmonkey Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 jcarruthers wrote:The issue will be bending them - we need an orginal to bend them round.you need a bending machine or folder! try doing it in a vice with a decent thickness it will come out like a dogs dinner!I did a rough sketch and took it to a fabricator round the corner from dales to put the bends in then cut it to fit back at the workshop -total cost about a tenner! I will post some pics up over the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedmonkey Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 The one pictured looks about as much use as a chocolate fire guard on decent rough stuff! - you cant over engineer a sump guard!! maybe my view has been tainted after driving over the atlas mountains!The one on the Taxi is more that strong enough to jack the front of the car up on-quite usefull really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenV8Machine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 thats nice jason. where does it locate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I've never seen the thing in the "flesh" so to speak - it's not so much a sump guard as a stone deflector - the idea was it was for the Chicane , African dirt roads etc.If you really want a man's sump / gear box guard, take a look at the mahoosive piece of Dreadnought armour plate they put on the works rally cars - difficult for one man to lift and designed to take RPG rounds full on I think. After a nuclear war teh only things left will be cockroaches and World Cup sump guards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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