Stu 1986 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Hello! I'm here yet again to pick the brains of (or irritate the hell out of) your brains. This is a quick question:I have the 13 inch wire wheels (Splines & Hubs type) fitted on my herald, and before I get this car on the road properly I'm going to need new tyres, as these are over 10 years old, and I notice one has a small egg in it. Which pisses me off really because they have very deep tread on them! :-/Can any tyre fitter replace the tyres on these types of wheels or do I need a specialist fitter with equipment?Ta,Stu. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarthT Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 mine also has tyres on it that are well over 10 years old, they have loads of tread but they're so rock hard and have no grip, (I found this out in the recent snow and ice). Plus when it's wet, roundabouts at speed are err.. 'interesting'.Some nice soft new tyres for me also, and quite soon I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieB Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 You must fit inner tubes & the tyre fitter must have the correct adaptors for balancing wire wheels:http://www.mwsint.com/FittingCentreLock.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dar Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 CharlieB wrote:You must fit inner tubes & the tyre fitter must have the correct adaptors for balancing wire wheels:http://www.mwsint.com/FittingCentreLock.aspif thay need innertubes ,you need tube type tyre,s fitted as a standard tyre is tubeless and not ment to have a tube fitted to it, the tube will rub on the ribs inside the tyre and go flat.not good at speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lewis Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I would have the wheels trued and spoked to make sure the rim and hub are still concentric, or you wont balance anything. if you took a video of the wheel rim on a wire wheel distorting on corners you wouldnt drive it. if you want snappy handling sell them on and get something that stays round and doesnt go instantly flat with a puncture have not looked it up but had a feeling MOT look for 7 years as max age on a tyre ???? at 10 years I hate to think what the wire banding corrosion inside the tyre is doing. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarthT Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I don't think that it's been passed as law yet, but further reading has revealed that it has been discussed with the Transport Secretary. It gives examples of where tyre age/condition was a major or the main factor in causing an accident which resulted in a death.Might get them changed soon..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu 1986 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 I like my wires, they came with the car and they're something a little different. They look ok on these cars also but certain other classic cars should deffo swerve them! LOLAnyway, these tube type tyres who makes them and where do I get them from? Could my tyre fitter handle this or would I need to visit a specialist?Thanks for your help so far,S. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarthT Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 just asked at Kwikfit and they will fit them. The bloke said he has fitted them before, namely to a TR5, and he hadn't used inner tubes......?hmm....edit:- National Tyres and Autocare will fit them, the bloke there said you must use inner tubes, so sounds like he knows what he's talking about. They do not stock the tyres or inner tubes though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8HSV Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 peterhlewis wrote: have not looked it up but had a feeling MOT look for 7 years as max age on a tyre ???? at 10 years I hate to think what the wire banding corrosion inside the tyre is doing. PeteManufacturing dates or now shown on tyres but there is no MOT requirement to check on the tyres age.Tyre Markings: MM = Month Y = lest digit of year1980's MMY1990's MMY (with DOT Triangle)2000 on MMYYHowever tyre agencies recommend NOT using any tyre over 6 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piman Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Hello all, I bought some replacement wire wheels for my car, made by MWS, and they were intended to be used without tubes. The spoke nipples were sealed by, what looked like, silicone sealant.Personally I hate them, as they are so time consuming to clean properly.Alec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgenerator Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Might be worth converting to stainless wire wheels - must be less hassle to clean. I have some gourgeous tyres on mine with a 3 cm white section on the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu 1986 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Thanks For Taking the time to ask quick fit about them, I appreciate everyone's help on this matter. I am speaking to someone in the morning about this, and will chime back with what I've been quoted for tyres. I used a powerful Karcher Steam Cleaner at our Depot to clean mine, came up quite well :) Mine have the painted "Alloy" finish on them, which is different again to the chrome that is widely used. I am also going to do a thin white band on mine when it is finished. S. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR7th Heaven Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Photo please Stu. Especially when you get the white bands done.I've had several MGBs (sorry) with wire wheels and whilst they're a little more time consuming to clean they really improved the look of the car compared with Rostyles/steels & hub caps (IMHO).Never had any problems with the wires with regards handling or safety and I used the MGBs every day.Go for it.Rich ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarthT Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 1863 wrote:Manufacturing dates or now shown on tyres but there is no MOT requirement to check on the tyres age.Tyre Markings: MM = Month Y = lest digit of year1980's MMY1990's MMY (with DOT Triangle)2000 on MMYYHowever tyre agencies recommend NOT using any tyre over 6 years oldDon't know where that info came from but I worked in a tyre warehouse for two years and most of the tyres had age code which was two digits which corrsponded to the week (00 - 52) then another two digits which was the year. The tyres I've just had fitted have 2310 on them (middle of June 2010)We had to dispose of tyres which were older than 3 years and exhausts older than 5 years. But that was just that particular company's policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu 1986 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Update: Here is what my local Triumph specialist said to me regarding my Wires & Tyres: "Your wires are 4.5J. Tyres should be 155/80x13, they will be tubeless, they give the correct rolling radius. they give the correct "footprint" on the road & they will need tubes." I have also found in the car's history file the receipt for the tyres that are on it and it does state that tubes were fitted with the tyres.(India Tyres for anyone interested) So I guess we can conclude that it is ok to use the tubeless tyres with tubes. Still it might be worth checking theres nothing inside the tyre that could rub on the tube and cause damage, like rough ribs or anything. @TR7thHeven: I will post pictures of the wheels when I have the band put on. I know a fella who actually paints the WW on using a special banding machine. He is really good and cheap and will do any tyre. If you want to know his website let me know. S. 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerhun Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Was wondering how you progressed with the wire wheels as I'm thinking of getting some for my Vitesse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordleonusa Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 When I first got my Vitesse on the road, I had fitted brand new wire wheels.They looked fantastic, BUT...They were heavy, way heavy.The took a lot of cleaning, about 2 hours each.But worst of all, the unequal weight distribution on the Vitesse F56%, R44% and the two engine cylinders ahead of the front axle line made driving with them a fairly unpleasant experience.The front pair did not much like the weight of the engine and exacerbated the handling deficiences.After a while, I changed them for much stiffer, lighter and cheaper alloy wheels, which have proved 100% better in all respects.Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but maybe, I can save you a lot of money?Hope this helpsLeon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 India were Dunlops budget brand.Wire wheels? Never could see the point of putting floppy wire wheels on a car with one of the sharpest handling front suspensions systems out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu 1986 Posted August 3, 2011 Author Share Posted August 3, 2011 I still haven't got my car back from paint as I've been away with work a lot and have had problems with my daily driver. I still haven't sorted the tyres for it yet, but will probably do it in the next couple of months. The handling issues attached to wires don't bother me too much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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