TimW Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Hi Allthe GT6 is finally on it's wheels!! MOT in a couple of weeks if i can get the tunnel to fit over the type9! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 couple more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Nice one!civic Rad looks cool !Bonnet looks particularly well fitted! ;) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish44j Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 details on this civic radiator please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 HiI got an aluminum Honda civic race radiator from ebay to fit years 90-2000 ish The only mod required is to trim the chassis members at the origonal radiator location because the civic rad is about 15mm wider. I used 2 triumph stag bottom hoses for the civic top hose and a slightly cut down GT6 bottom hose on the bottom of the civic rad. I then got a 10" suck fan and cable tied it to the rear of the rad. The Civic rads are sold on ebay in either 2 core or 3 core. The 3 core is closer to the standard rad but was a little more expensive so i got the 2 core just to try it out. I have not run the rad on the GT6 under load yet but have had it idling in the garage last thursday when we had the hottest day of the year (about 90f) The car ran for about 40mins and the rad did cope very well and it didn't overheat. I shall have it on the road in about 2 weeks so should have a bit more feedback then. I have taken some pics and will post in a bitCheers Timirish44j wrote:details on this civic radiator please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 some picsyou do need to be careful with the hieght mine has about 5mm clear to underside of bonnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 [Sorry, link no longer available]old thread, some pics in there. ;) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Now that does look the dogs danglies :)Please do post back with how the radiator copes once your on the road 8)***edit***Just read the bit you linked to Roy. I take it that it didn't work out as you hoped as your setup is now different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish44j Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thanks Tim...always looking for inexpensive ideas to cut down weight in the nose and also to improve cooling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 tiggr,No it struggled with my engine.However, I was at Tims when his was running last thursday, his engine runs much smoother than mine ever has! :( And was holding temp very well!Roy:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thanks Roy it just looked too good to be true then? Or did you do anything else when fitting your (golf I think) wider radiator.I may investigate the three core civic aluminum radiator depending on how it goes for bestquality03. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 tiggrr1 wrote:Now that does look the dogs danglies :)Please do post back with how the radiator copes once your on the road 8)***edit***Just read the bit you linked to Roy. I take it that it didn't work out as you hoped as your setup is now different?TiggrThanks for th comments. I do think that the civic rad will need to be modded to fit a header tank. As the pics show the rad is slightly lower than the top of the engine. I think this may cause a problem as you can't get maximum water level from just topping up the rad from the filler neck. I am having the glass fitted on Thursday and will try and get all the other little bits done in the next week or so. Then i can give it a proper run and see how it performs. I will keep you updated.RegardsTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 tiggrr1 wrote:Thanks Roy it just looked too good to be true then? Or did you do anything else when fitting your (golf I think) wider radiator.I may investigate the three core civic aluminum radiator depending on how it goes for bestquality03.TiggrYou may find that the 3 core is actually less efficent than the 2 core. I phoned PACE radiators to see what size core's they sold and if they had any that was a direct replacment for the standard. I have access to a complete aluminum fabrications deparment at work and was going to get them to make me a rad from a PACE core. After talking to the technical guy at PACE he told me that the 2 core flowed air better than the 3 core therefor was more efficient. On paper the civic rad should give at least the same performance as the standard rad because it has the same surface area and aluminum is more thermo efficient than the standard rad. All The BestTimP.S.I will be happy to make up any of these rads in either the 2 or 3 core for anyone who wants one if you cover my costs. I would like to do a 3 core just to see the difference but trying to get the wife to agree the cost of yet another rad for ME may be tricky!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 What rad is Roy now using?After years of running my GT6 with a thick cored Stanpart rad I am about to give up and go for something modern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 timbancroft61 wrote:What rad is Roy now using?After years of running my GT6 with a thick cored Stanpart rad I am about to give up and go for something modern? Hi TimRoy is running a standard golf MK2. The install is very neat and performs without fault. The install looks easy enough to do and he used all genuine gt6 hoses. He also runs a header tank on the bulkhead as the golf rad doesn't have a cap. He has posted pics on here before but i'm sure he would post them again! I will gladly either mod a civic one for you or make one up from scratch if you get the bits from somewhere like PACE. RegardsTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Tim this was what Roy was running at Cadwell. I believe it's a VW Golf radiator, not sure which one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Of course, thanks, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 tiggrr1 wrote:Tim this was what Roy was running at Cadwell. I believe it's a VW Golf radiator, not sure which one though. TiggrThanks for that but Roy was at my house last Thursday helping sort the timing and carbs He also helped put the bonnet on so i have seen his GT6 first hand. The rad he is using is a Golf MK2 and had i not already bought a civic rad and read his thread on the civic rad i would have gone down the same route. Saying that Roy fitted his civic rad very far forward so had to drop it lower down in the chassis rails to fit under the bonnet. This will block the air flow to the centre of the rad because the front cross member gets in the way of the air flow. I don't know if this had anything to do with it not working just a guess. I think my install is showing all the right signs that it will work just fine. One major benefit to using the golf rad is cost. I think Roy paid £40ish for his brand new!!! You can also get aluminum Race rads for the golf for £150 off ebay. Now that may be NICE!!!!RegsrdsTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggrr1 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Another thought TimIf you have been running it for years....................It may benefit from a new core.Do you remember Marcus's green GT6 at the start of La Carrera Caledonia that runs just short of 190bhp (heavily modified) but still on a standard GT6 radiator. It just has a very efficient homemade front shroud and electric fan (front mounted ).It was however cooling too efficiently when I visited him (warm day too) and he had the radiator blanked off and the gauge still only went to about 1/3 of the dial.So I reckon the GT6 radiator in good condition with a decent shroud should work fine.I have ordered one of these shrouds off ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250456617779(No association) and hope to fit it this weekend. I'll post how it goes.I reckon that it may fit the civic rad, if you want me to measure it for you bestquality03? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 tiggrr1 wrote:Another thought TimIf you have been running it for years....................It may benefit from a new core.Do you remember Marcus's green GT6 at the start of La Carrera Caledonia that runs just short of 190bhp (heavily modified) but still on a standard GT6 radiator. It just has a very efficient homemade front shroud and electric fan (front mounted ).It was however cooling too efficiently when I visited him (warm day too) and he had the radiator blanked off and the gauge still only went to about 1/3 of the dial.So I reckon the GT6 radiator in good condition with a decent shroud should work fine.I have ordered one of these shrouds off ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250456617779(No association) and hope to fit it this weekend. I'll post how it goes.I reckon that it may fit the civic rad, if you want me to measure it for you bestquality03?Hi SteveThanks for the offer on the shroud but i already have one and yes it will just about fit on the civic rad. I have to be honest I didn't do the civic rad install because i wanted better cooling. I did it because it is 1/3rd the weight of the gt6, It looks cool and because i can't leave anything alone!!!!!! My brother runs a 2300cc gt6 full race engine with Lucas PI and his standard rad copes just fine.In my opinion the weight saving alone is worth changing the standard rad.RegardsTim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I thought, hey I know that engine bay! :PI also Agree about the standard Rad being up to be job,I have always thought that the standard crank driven fan Really doesnt help to keep the cabin temps down due to constantly blowing back warm air up the tunnel!So, firstly I tried a pacet puller fan on the standard rad, although this set up works for Tim b, my car really struggled.Next I tried a civic alloy rad, but again mine ran just a tad warm for my liking. Now having seen Tim's(bestquality03) Gt6 running for 30mins on a hot day in a garage,and holding temps very well, Im sure my engine just runs a bit hotter that others.So, I thought Id try the Golf mk2 rad, its �40 new, and easy to fit, it works for me.I already had a couple of fans that luckily fitted onto it, and also managed to use triumph hoses ;) to keep it simple and easy to change back if needed.at speed, it really does bring the temps down quickly, and the fans doo their job at slower traffic speeds.still would like a touch more and those alloy golf rads on ebay looks yummy! :PYou could swap to a golf rad in a day ,all the parts would cost around �70-80, and if you didnt like it or wanted to go back to standard you could without any probs.couple more install pics on here i think......http://s625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/Royboy66_photos/?start=all 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 Fitted Header Tank today Many thanks to RoyBoy66 for the tank. A couple of pics of the install. All needs hose clips and finish routing pipes but you get the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Nice, Good fit on the bulkhead then! ;)I can see one upper hose going to thermostat cover(might need a 4mm restrictor in that), where the other one going?have you joined into the bottom hose, cant tell in pic?Looking good ! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimW Posted July 17, 2009 Author Share Posted July 17, 2009 1 pipe from the thermostat housing. The inside diameter of this pipe is 4.5mm so i think it will be o.k. The other small diameter pipe is from the rad neck. I have removed the centre valve and seal from the rad cap to allow constant flow. If you look real hard you can see the 15mm id pipe going around the suspension turret and teeing into the bottom hose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royboy66 Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 ah ! I see said the Blind man!Oops ! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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