Cost of doing the 10CR

[Clive]

Oh dear, John is upset about the 10CR. 

What he may not know is that is 2015 when there was an option to do an overnight section, not 1 crew did it. So I guess the organisers didn't bother again. 

Besides, I don't think anybody "trundled" about. Most of us had a great driving experience, (some of which was pretty fast and challenging) combined with some great socialising. But what sets it apart is the CT element. Looks like John missed out, he just doesn't know it!

Besides, the 10CR is whatever you want it to be. But best enjoyed by taking part.

[Darren Sharp]

6 hours ago, JohnD said:

Where's the achievement in trundling around any number of countries, slowly and in daylight, in the knowledge of a comfy hotel bed before dark?    If you want foreign travel, there are any number of "Tours" that offer that, and if you don't just commute in your Triumph.

The Old 10CR was something to be proud of.   I know I've warned of the effect of fatigue, but my concern is more about immediately after the actual event.

John

Entitled to your view John but not all of us need the kind of buzz you clearly seek . You are not alone in your thoughts though so perhaps it is time for a harder core type event although I wonder how many would take it on . I have to say The single track Gavia Pass with switchback corners and steep , steep drops off hairpin bends with snow on the top was plenty challenging enough for me . 

[Howard]

In the dark you can't see the drop so it's less scary 🤣

[mpbarrett]

18 hours ago, JohnD said:

Where's the achievement in trundling around any number of countries, slowly and in daylight, in the knowledge of a comfy hotel bed before dark?    If you want foreign travel, there are any number of "Tours" that offer that, and if you don't just commute in your Triumph.

The Old 10CR was something to be proud of.   I know I've warned of the effect of fatigue, but my concern is more about immediately after the actual event.

John

john

I don't recognise your description of the event. Some of us enjoyed it and had fun and found it a challenge. It was much more than a "trundling around a number of countries" and a lot of people didnt get a  "comfy bed  before dark".
Not sure what your point is, if you dont like the idea of the current 10CR then don't enter, there are plenty of people who want to and will have fun.

Mike
 

[JohnD]

Mike, and others,

There are many classic car tours, some on a commercial basis - see this, just the first hit on a Google search.  It has sixteen to choose from! CLASSIC CAR TOURS (classic-car-tours.com)  - or clubs, the Coast-to-Coast for instance, that provide interesting routes, beautiful scenery and, of course, comfortable hotel accommodation.  Yes, there are many who want to enter these   But the whole point, IMHO, of the 10CR that was the hallmark of Club Triumph, was that it was a challenge!

All that way, without creature comforts, in a time that demanded all-night driving and navigation.    Totally different from normal driving, an experience and an achievement! 

I fear that by removing those aspects of the 10CR, CT has lost something that was unique among classic car events!

 

I'm no 10CR veteran.   I did one with Binman in his roofless, windscreenless SuperSix (yes, I know, we were mad) and felt elated.     Jon sold that car, my race Vitesse is totally unsuitable, we never did it again, but I value the memory.    To enter this modern 'comfortable' version could not match, let alone replace that memory!

John

Edited October 19, 2022 by JohnD

[Clive]

John,

Most of the tours you refer to cover much smaller distances each day, and are not comparable to the 10CR. Besides, have you seen the costs involved???

At the other extreme there are events like the Mongal Rally.

10CR is a very successful event, as is the RBRR. They compliment each other.

But there is no compelling reason to change from hotels etc  as most want a decent bed/shower and a chance to socialise.

As others have said, different events suit different people.

And the Coast 2 Coast is an overnight drive, at least the CT one is (are there others?)

I respect the RBRR, but have no desire to enter it again (very happy helping at the start/finish though). Likewise the touring events you allude to are not my cup of tea either. 

[mpbarrett]

Having done 1 or 2 10CR's with overnight driving and sleeping in the car (6 foot tall sleeping in a GT6 is a physical challenge) I now prefer to stop at Hotels. I know my limitations and that now excludes driving thru the night. I have enjoyed all the 10CR's I have done, even when we have broken down, they have all been different.
I think you are being unfair, being critical of the event when you have not tried it recently.
Maybe there is a place for a hard core event like the original 10CR, I am sure the club would welcome ideas and I am sure using your Vitesse will help to increase the challenge of doing the event 😉
 

mike

[RobPearce]

36 minutes ago, JohnD said:

There are many classic car tours, some on a commercial basis

When I was on holiday in Yorkshire last year, we saw a convoy of supercars pootling (well, crawling) through Muker on just such a commercial "tour". Our local area organised a three day trip around the Peaks, Lakes and Dales a month later - complete with overnight hotel stops - that involved far more "hard driving" of Triumphs than those supercars were achieving. And then I took my Spitfire on the RBRR.

As Clive and Mike have said, the 10CR in its current form is a lot more of a drivers' event than most "car tours", while not as hard-core nutter as the RBRR (or the double-RBRR that you seem to want it to be). It seems to me it's hitting a good sweet spot.

[Wendy Dawes]

Simple answer is, if it doesn’t suit your needs, don’t enter but don’t diss it when it is enjoyed by everyone who does the event.  If there is an alternative event which suits your ideal then enter that one instead 

don't want  to sound rude here but these are your choices and everyone is entitled to make theirs, not everyone wants to thrash their cars to destruction, most of us respect the age of our cars and have invested as much time and as much money as we can afford to keep them running. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by Wendy Dawes

[JohnD]

Thank you, Mike!  No, the Vitesse has been to Le Mans several times, but nowadays, with so much power it breaks gearboxes, only one seat and a full roll cage, so nowhere in the back to lie down, it is definitely not suitable for long distance drives.    If I could enter the TRansit, my co driver(s) could sleep in a proper bunk!