Luke Valvona Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Hi all, looking to fit an electric pump to my gt6, (unless I’m convinced otherwise….), has anyone done this already who could offer some guidance? questions I currently have are: were to fit the pump (I’m looking at as close as possible to the tank) did you fit a pressure regulator (I do have one to hand) did you wire it into the ignition or a separate switch? did you install a cut off? In case of an accident etc? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Yes. I fitted a Huco “sucker” type. This is mounted in the engine bay close to the original mechanical pump position. You could use the Huco pusher version and mount it by the tank but there really isn’t much room back there if you want to carry a spare wheel. Have a pic somewhere, but not on this phone. Neither of these options needs a regulator as the Huco pumps are low pressure. You should fit an impact cutoff switch in the pump supply line. I also ran the fuel pipe from pump to carbs along the bulkhead rather than along the engine block to keep it as cool as possible. This meant reversing the shape of the carb link pipe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 What type of fuel upump have you fitted? As NIck suggests, do fit a fuel cut off switch, here is an example: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Agree with Tim! Those inertia switches may be mounted in the engine bay, or on the dash, and are effective, but only when you need one! Worth knowing that two versions are available, two- and three-wire. The latter will connect a warning light when the switch triggers, to tell you why the engine has stopped! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iani Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Luke Valvona said: Hi all, looking to fit an electric pump to my gt6, (unless I’m convinced otherwise….), has anyone done this already who could offer some guidance? questions I currently have are: were to fit the pump (I’m looking at as close as possible to the tank) did you fit a pressure regulator (I do have one to hand) did you wire it into the ignition or a separate switch? did you install a cut off? In case of an accident etc? cheers I run a facet red top pump, it is mounted on the chassis rail inboard of the N/S/R wheel. I have a FPR mounted in the engine bay, I also have an electronic fuel pressure gauge I use an ignition switched relay delivering power to the pum I do have an inhibitor switch, a 3 wire unit. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 I have recently fitted a pump off a Yamaha motor bike. I bought 3 used ones, but all genuine. One is on my vitesse, and is quiet compared to the Facet wch I have used on other cars. It is also low pressure, about 2psi, so causes no issues at all. And the bike has more bhp than the vitesse, so fuel delivery won't be an issue. Yoiu can hear it tick away when you start the car, getting the float chanmbers full, it then slows right down. When dric=ving, I really cannot hear it. It has be be fitted close to the tank and ideally below the tank. I will be fitting the other pumpo to my dolomite, and the 3rd will be a spare to carry on the 10CR etc meaning it will never be needed. Best of all, I bought all 3 for £30! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT64fun Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Same setup as Nicks, but I have mounted the Huco on the front side of the n/s suspension tower to keep it cooler and out of the way for oil filter changes. I've fitted a 2 pin impact cut-off switch on the main bulkhead behind the battery (needs to be a rigid panel) Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 8 hours ago, Tim Bancroft said: What type of fuel upump have you fitted? As NIck suggests, do fit a fuel cut off switch, here is an example: Inertia switches are cheap and a very sensible addition, however the matching plugs can be nearly as expensive as the switch. I acquired the unit I installed on my TR7V8 from https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/inertia-safety-switch. The matching plug from them is £6 each. Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Valvona Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 Hi All, thank you for all the replies! Blown away by the help. In answer to some questions, I bought a pump from a trade show (it looks like this one) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202771434372?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=CEznwNDXSmu&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=byXeiIxMSGG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY so will probably look at this Huco range. @Nick Jones Does anyone have a link to one they used? Found a few online but not if the right type as it seems to vary with pressure ranges. will be looking to install in the engine bay (as I think this will be better for access!) so will get a suction type. I also like the idea of moving the location of the fuel line. @GT64fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 At £25 that's a cheap Chinese knock-off of the Facet pump. Reliability may not be its second name. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Valvona Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 19 hours ago, Nick Jones said: Yes. I fitted a Huco “sucker” type. This is mounted in the engine bay close to the original mechanical pump position. You could use the Huco pusher version and mount it by the tank but there really isn’t much room back there if you want to carry a spare wheel. Have a pic somewhere, but not on this phone. Neither of these options needs a regulator as the Huco pumps are low pressure. You should fit an impact cutoff switch in the pump supply line. I also ran the fuel pipe from pump to carbs along the bulkhead rather than along the engine block to keep it as cool as possible. This meant reversing the shape of the carb link pipe. Do you have any pictures of your setup? Mainly looking at the fuel pipe running and locations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Valvona Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 29 minutes ago, JohnD said: At £25 that's a cheap Chinese knock-off of the Facet pump. Reliability may not be its second name. John Yeah….I’m thinking that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Couple of not too great pictures... You can just see the Huco above the oil filter adapter. Fuel pipes are just out of sight to the right. IIRC I made a bracket which is part of the mechanical fuel pump blanking plate. Don't seem to have pic of it so will get you better one. Incoming is along the chassis rail, through the front outrigger (couple of inches of copper pipe visible behind the rear wishbone bracket). Outgoing is up the bulkhead then along it under the brake servo and header tank..... .... then forward to the carbs with the carb link-pipe layout being reversed to suit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 At the moment there is a supply issue with Huco pumps, they have been taken over by Hitachi and the min order is something like 200 units, so companies are not buying them. I spoke to Southern Carburettors to find this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) As well as their iconic 'cylindrical' pumps, Facet make the much cheaper "Solid State" pumps, also good for 30 gallons/hour plus. Glencoe are the UK stockists: https://www.glencoeltd.co.uk/facet-fuel-pumps/facet-solid-state-pump-12v-24v/ John Edited November 20, 2023 by JohnD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Is all this really necessary for a standard car though? In over 35 years of ownership of my Vitesse (alright not done as many miles as it should😒) I had the original mechanical pump wear out its non return valves so got a very cheap replacement pump and slapped it on with out issue. Then I put new valves in the old one and its ready to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT64fun Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 5 hours ago, glang said: Is all this really necessary for a standard car though? I changed to an electric pump due to vaporization problems in the mechanical pump. It is possible that this due to the pump having to suck hard through partially blocked lines, which is a recently diagnosed and now corrected issue. These things are set to try us. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glang Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 yes important to identify exactly what the problem is and admittedly that can sometimes be quite difficult - fuel line blockage, excessive temperatures, leaking pump valves etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 Here is where I fitted our Huco pump on a Spitfire 1500 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Valvona Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 Hi all, anyone know if the HUCO sucker pump with the 1.4PSI rating is suitable for the GT6? Don’t want to get the wrong one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Yes, if you are going to put it in/near the engine bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Valvona Posted November 25, 2023 Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Nick Jones said: Yes, if you are going to put it in/near the engine bay. Cheers Nick! Found a few online but wasn’t sure about the low PSI pressure rating as most information I found online said I should have between 2-3PSI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Wade Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 It may only be 1.4 PSI, but it can deliver 120 litres/hour. It should be plenty for your car (unless you're filling up ~3 times per hour). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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