WIMPUS Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Hi all,As some of you may know i changed my OD in January, new clutch, all new bushes for the arm etc.Now we think that the 3rd gear syncro is gone 🤔 Have a look at the video, it goes into gear fine, getting it out is harder..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0wGXSykRO4&feature=youtu.bewhat do you all think ? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 3 rd gear circlip come adrift me tinks Wimits the one that sits in a groove inside the 3 rd gear endM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 It's not really obvious how hard it is coming out of third in the video. Do you mean that it takes a hard tug to get it to come out of third itself or that going back down into second is hard? Neither of these indicates a problem with 3rd gear synchro to me but the last one could mean a problem with second gear synchro. Or maybe just that the new oil you put in when you changed the overdrive is less syncho-friendly than before.What I do notice is that the gear lever moves alot as you go on and off the power - more than normal IMO. This might indicate a problem with the circlip on the front end of the mainshaft (pretty much under 3rd/4th synchro hub) and could be the cause of the change issue also.Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Marcus and I are talking about the same circlip - he just types quicker (and briefer).Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 Well this morning i drove by only using 1, 2 and 4th gear , those work great.But.. The moving gearstick is only in 3rd.When i get into 3rd (goes is fine !) then want to downshift.. it's hard to come out of 3rd and very sometimes grinds in 2nd.When i go from 3rd to 4th, it's also hard to come out of 3rd and goes fine into 4th. My friend thought it could be the spring of the syncro of 3d gear , and the next step will be that she pops out of gear.When i changed the OD i changed to the oil i always used, but found out some part of metal that was hanging on the sump plug. (still got it, will take a pic).So you all could be right about a circlip to.. Me thinks i best get a recon box 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Wim, doo it yer selfplenty on here will help ye oot,this way, ye no whats actually going on inside a boxplus Shaun Sheep, an Dirk Dastardly, are near to help too.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 15, 2016 Author Share Posted April 15, 2016 Quoted from GT6 M Wim, doo it yer selfplenty on here will help ye oot,this way, ye no whats actually going on inside a boxplus Shaun Sheep, an Dirk Dastardly, are near to help too.M Problem is that i need the car as my daily transport to my work to 🤔Also noticed that the reverse gear is missing teeth to .. My friend just showed me part number TKC6444... circlip.Think i've seen part of it on my sump plug 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 and ... we got a recon one !at Anglo parts they where shocked that they had 2 in stock of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 16, 2016 Author Share Posted April 16, 2016 Does anyone know how the round thing that drives the oil pump for the OD is held on ? Can't see it as my old box is still in use.. On the new box it's just like this (pic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 ello Wim, there is a wudruff key fits into that slotand either side of it, int grooves, there a split ring,some ive worked on ev circlips, but mainly they are steel rings.the pump cam fits int middle of emM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 The OD cam is only held on by a clip in the rearmost ring, straightforward to change over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Ok ! Thanks John and Marcus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Found the metal part that was hanging on my gearbox drain plug 4 months ago..Seems to be a part of that circlip ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Yip thats it Wim,and most likely been opened up too far when putting in, or tekn oot.BUTTT, bear in mind, some of the newer stuff is like cheese metal,!!!just saying, 😲 M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 17, 2016 Author Share Posted April 17, 2016 Quoted from GT6 M Yip thats it Wim,and most likely been opened up too far when putting in, or tekn oot.BUTTT, bear in mind, some of the newer stuff is like cheese metal,!!!just saying, 😲 M Yeah i know the new stuff isn't that great.. will see how the new box will hold up ! For sure on the miles /km's i do in a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 Really fed up now, wanted to test all the threads on the new box... The ones for the bellhousing are painted over good, eventually got a bolt in .But need a tap and die set and i don't have on in UNF 😲Also the ones for the cover with the breather in... they won't go Asked a teacher from my work if he got UNF taps, maybe.. Going to see if my local garage has them of another place i know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Quoted from WIMPUS Really fed up now, wanted to test all the threads on the new box... The ones for the bellhousing are painted over good, eventually got a bolt in .But need a tap and die set and i don't have on in UNF 😲Also the ones for the cover with the breather in... they won't go Asked a teacher from my work if he got UNF taps, maybe.. Going to see if my local garage has them of another place i know. If you cannot get any taps. make one out of a spare bolt that is the correct size.Simply use a hacksaw and put 2 slots in the threads parallel to the length of the bolt - the slots will remove the paint once you get the bolt in the thread = its not as hard or as sharp as a tap. so don't force it, half a turn at the time then undo, clean the slots out and go again, repeat until the thread is clear. you may need to do this with a couple of spare bolts if you have a lot of threads to clear out, as the slots will wear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Asked Shaun if he had any taps and he had some at his work.This evening popped over (45min drive one way) and re-tapped the holes.A lot of dirt came out & the 2 1/4 holes for the lid had a lot of dirt in it, think even blasting grit or something.All good now, pics are on my Spit1500 thread 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 21, 2016 Author Share Posted April 21, 2016 Oh yeah and on the drive she sometimes played up a bit, didn't wanted to go in 2nd good anymore , the had 2 times that it popped out of 3rd gear ! Tomorrow afternoon it's coming out.. then the fun all starts LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 Been busy... Got the box out etc, opened up the top cover.... seems everything has got a lot of play (think)Drained the oil, and found some more parts of circlip onto the magnetic plug! This evening going to try to build the OD & Bellhousing onto the new gearbox, then i can put the new one in tomorrow (well whenever my uncle can come over).I can get it out myself, but getting it in is a lot harder ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 And problems... well more money needs to be spend !Found out the box in my car is an early one, so with a scroll seal 🤔As that doesn't fit on the new (late ) gearbox i need a new adaptor.Seems they have 1 in stock in belgium, so will need to get that tomorrow !Then i can use a rubber seal..Some pics ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted April 23, 2016 Author Share Posted April 23, 2016 If you look you will all see what happened .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g506TcNahlwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1MPnZ9Ux0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkshire_spam Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Great result Wim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Weel don Wim, ye love tinkerating really.hope ye put copper washers on the bottom G/Box to bell housing, and some loctite,!!!as that bolts, direct to inside of box,re Taps n diesbest get yer self a mechanics set of flea baythey wont be much, as carbon steelbut ideal for what ye want, ie cleaning threads an the likehttp://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.ht.....%2F+unf&_sacat=0M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 After finding twisted splines on the mainshaft on a Sunbeam Rapier many years ago I always use the clutch when changing in and out of overdrive figuring that rough changes caused the Rapiers problem.I know this is a controversial topic that has been discussed previously.Just my 2 cents worth. (eek)Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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