Ken Young Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I have decided to rebuild and renovate the rear suspension on my mk1 this winter. I have seen the special tool that you can buy to pull off the hubs, but is it possible just to use a standard three legged hub puller. Also I would be very grateful if anyone could let me know of any common tricks or snags with the whole operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Quoted from Ken Young I have seen the special tool that you can buy to pull off the hubs, but is it possible just to use a standard three legged hub puller. Yes you can use a three legged puller, however the flanges will no longer be flat and you will have to buy new ones. Cheaper to get the correct tool. The taper on the halfshaft/flange join is incredibly strong and the flanges are vulnerable when a 3 legged puller is used.Whereabouts are you? There maybe someone near you with access to one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_68 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Hello,The special tool is the way to go, maybe you can borrow or rent from another forum member. I did my own after trying with a three legged puller. I had to use some heat to remove the hub, for the bearing housing I had to put the nut on the axle to protect the threads and slam it to a piece of wood.Saw to late that others replied..Good luckChris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 You must use a proper tool for the jobThe flange is on at over 100ft/lbs torqueIf you use the three leg puller it will bend/distort and if you came to re install, the wheel will rotate wobbling, then eventually after a while the half shaft will snap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Naahhh, all ye need is some ..forgiving surfaces....really amusinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=295baZRYpq4M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Hang on ...this happens all the timeAre we talking of the flange that holds the brake/wheel on or the bearing housing that is held with trunnion and vertical linkNote the correct terminologyBearing housing removal shown is the brute force used by Norhern pict like neanderthols..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudman Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Don't forget that you need one tool to remove the hubs, and another to remove the inner bearing from the half shafts... even on eBay these cost £108 for the two; however I've spotted that on eBay you can buy complete reconditioned assemblies for £125 per side. I know I like to do things myself and get the satisfaction of a job accomplished, but in this case I'd rather go the extra cost than have two specialised tools lying about the garage that I'll only ever use once or twice. I have too many of those already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Quoted from Paudman Don't forget that you need one tool to remove the hubs, and another to remove the inner bearing from the half shafts... even on eBay these cost £108 for the two; however I've spotted that on eBay you can buy complete reconditioned assemblies for £125 per side. I know I like to do things myself and get the satisfaction of a job accomplished, but in this case I'd rather go the extra cost than have two specialised tools lying about the garage that I'll only ever use once or twice. I have too many of those already! However if you are just changing defunct bearings then it wise to have the tools to replace a £20.00 bearingThe £125.00 replacement also needs a service exchange unit with a £100.00 excess unit, so it can cost £225.00 if you do not have a service exchange unit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRooster Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Quoted from GT6 M Naahhh, all ye need is some ..forgiving surfaces....really amusinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=295baZRYpq4M I'd have given up while all my toes were still intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paudman Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Quoted from Velocita Rosso However if you are just changing defunct bearings then it wise to have the tools to replace a £20.00 bearingThe £125.00 replacement also needs a service exchange unit with a £100.00 excess unit, so it can cost £225.00 if you do not have a service exchange unit I assume the OP will be taking the old ones off, as there's not much point in changing the bearings on an axle you haven't got in the first place, so therefore will have exchange units... I've no connection with the seller but reconditioned shafts, new bearings and tab washers on a sandblasted and repainted backplate with new UJs and nylocs for the flanges seems a good deal. There are always hidden charges - such as carriage - but then how many hours of my time in the garage, sandblasting, repainting, trips to motor factors or the Postal Sorting Office to collect parcels and the petrol that costs will be saved? So: £108 for tools that you use once every how many years... against a one-off fit and hopefully forget assembly, which will save me a lot of time and effort... just seems to me to be a lot less bother and hassle and a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Quoted from Paudman So: £108 for tools that you use once every how many years... against a one-off fit and hopefully forget assembly, which will save me a lot of time and effort... just seems to me to be a lot less bother and hassle and a good deal. Depends on how much you use the carOn regular use , bearings can be changed fairly often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny-Jimbo Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 If you do do it yourself, leave the backplate on from the drum brake. Then, after you've 'popped' the taper, but the shaft is stuck in the bearing housing, you've got something to hang onto when you need to wallop the end of the driveshaft with a copper hammer! As has been said, put the nut back on to protect the threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markcro Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I've never done this job yet but was thinking of it, but comparing the costs above I'd just go and replace them. Less cursing and stress and a new looking assembly. Just my thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6MK3 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Built one myself for about 20 bucks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCd8kYI3HyY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Nice video Craig 🙂Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy MK1 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Probably all sorted.. If not, please use proper tool.. Like a wally I used a 2 legged puller, reassy gave me some interesting wheels. Tought I when was pissed and watching an out of balance frissbee or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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