neilnaz Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 AJ I have Revolution 13 6J and kept my existing studs and used the Sleeved nuts supplied. I have not had a problem. I don't see how you could use Revolutions with those huge (diameter) studs unless you get the wheels remachined to accept different (larger) Sleeved nuts. I may have missed something in all this. ::)neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ.Lintern Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Well the wheels are from a TR7 so had M12 sleeve nuts with them. Just thought it worthwhile to make use of the more heavy duty studs rather than buy smaller thread sleeve nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnaz Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Gotcha! I thought I had missed something as per usual......... ::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mj17 Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 [quote by=davesideways link=Blah.pl?b=spit,m=1176404924,s=25 date=1180442036]REALLY important on the back hubs to chamfer the heads or you'll rip the brake cylinders out and wangle off the springs on the shoes...What 10mins with a bench grinder? [/quote]What's actually needed on the chamfering front - is it just making the inner face a 45 (or whatever it is) degree angle so they sit into the hub, or is it grinding down at 45 degrees until it's just head - 45 degree chamfer - stud?Code:<br> _____ <br> \ /<br> | |<br> | |<br>ORCode:<br> _____<br> | |<br> \ /<br> | |<br>If you get what I mean?(that really didn't work very well :)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ.Lintern Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 No, Dave means the outer edge of the stud needs chamfering to miss the wheel cylinder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieB Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I'm sure you can buy studs with the correct countersunk head.Neil, if you're Revolution wheels have 11/16" dia holes you can get wheel nuts to fit for 3/8" 7/16" & M12 studs. If they have 9/16" holes then you're stuffed! (mine have 9/16") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 Mike Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Fitted Freelander studs in my hubs, pretty sure they had the correct countersunk heads - just pressed them straight in. Cost me around £20 from a Land Rover dealer after hagling for a bit of discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ.Lintern Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 I'm having difficulty getting these studs to seat squarely, which it particularly important with Revolutions as they rely on the studs being perfectly lined up so you can get the sleeve nuts in.Would be nice to have some studs which just tap in without modification - can you get these M12 Freelander studs anywhere online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 Mike Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Not sure about online, but the LR dealers should be able to get them within 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Just started the upgrade to M12's on mine tonight after this happenendI managed to get my hands on a set of Rover 100 studs and front MGF studs (shown on the right)After 10 mins I found myself stumped on the rear.. I am assuming I need to remove the rear hub in order to get the M12 studs in ? In which case do I need to use a pulling tool like this to get the hub off ? I've managed to get the nut off.or should i get one of theseThanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieB Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 A trick to avoid removing the hub is to drill a hole in the back plate to pass the studs through. One hole will do as you can rotate the hub.That puller probably wont be strong enough, you would need to borrow a proper one.What wheels were you running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 You won't get the hub of using that puller, you need the original stud mounting type. The catch here is you need a full complement of studs in place to use the appropriate puller. Original type studs can be temporarily fitted with the backplate in place, can they not?Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 The original studs will go in and out without the need to remove the hub unfortunatley 3 of mine have snapped off :( are you refering to the puller I added to my post after your response ?Liking your plan CharlieB I was wondering whether to do that and bung a grommit in the back afterwards...Is there enough space to drill from behind ? I am runnung MGF wheels BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieB Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Oops, stupid question, just noticed the MGF wheels in your signature!Explains why the studs broke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ.Lintern Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Why would the MGF wheels cause the studs to shear? Is it just because they're wider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieB Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 Yes & they don't centre on the hub like the original wheels so all the force is taken by the studs. Also being alloy the wheel is thicker so the force is taken nearer to the end of the studs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 [quote by=JP link=Blah.pl?b=spit,m=1176404924,s=39 date=1180478934]The original studs will go in and out without the need to remove the hub unfortunatley 3 of mine have snapped off :( are you refering to the puller I added to my post after your response ?[/quote]The picture of the puller was there when I first saw the post. The puller pictured will either break, or it will bend the hub. Cheers,Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CharlieB Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 You need one of these, but I'm sure you could borrow one or get someone to do it for you for little money.http://www.tssc2.org.uk/catalog.asp?category=200204231525116761613927 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 This one no good at 20 notes from Machinemart then ?CLICK PIC to go to site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 [quote by=CharlieB link=Blah.pl?b=spit,m=1176404924,s=46 date=1180514774]You need one of these, but I'm sure you could borrow one or get someone to do it for you for little money.http://www.tssc2.org.uk/catalog.asp?category=200204231525116761613927[/quote]You don't need to spend anywhere near that amount to get the proper tool (no names no pack drill!). Other traders sell the proper tool cheaper than that to, blah, blah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted User Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 [quote by=JP link=Blah.pl?b=spit,m=1176404924,s=47 date=1180515479]This one no good at 20 notes from Machinemart then ?CLICK PIC to go to site[/quote]No! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I see canley classics do them but still £55, think I'll go with the drilling hole method as it's free :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ.Lintern Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 I never though fitting studs could be such a pain! It seem the sleeve nuts are too long, so will hit the shank of the stud before clamping the wheel, but the studs are so long that they reach the end of the sleeve nut before then anyway! ::) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted May 30, 2007 Share Posted May 30, 2007 [quote by=AJ.Lintern link=Blah.pl?b=spit,m=1176404924,s=51 date=1180536866]I never though fitting studs could be such a pain! It seem the sleeve nuts are too long, so will hit the shank of the stud before clamping the wheel, but the studs are so long that they reach the end of the sleeve nut before then anyway! ::)[/quote]I feared that might be the case.. is that why someone mentioned earlier in the thread about using a spacer :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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