Moorzee Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Roughly how much should I need to pay a garage to replace a bust cylinder head gasket and grind the valves etc... while they are at it? :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 9598 wrote:Roughly how much should I need to pay a garage to replace a bust cylinder head gasket and grind the valves etc... while they are at it? :(Doing it ones self it would cost around £15.00 to £20.00A garage would charge anywhere around £30.00 to £50.00 an hour for a three to four hour job.......dependent on where you go......also on how long they would takeSome who know what they are doing at a bespoke Triumph place would have it done and back together in no timeAt a `modern` establishment there will be a sucking of air between pursed lips and blowing of hot air trying to explain how difficult the job is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorzee Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 michael_charlton wrote:Doing it ones self it would cost around £15.00 to £20.00A garage would charge anywhere around £30.00 to £50.00 an hour for a three to four hour job.......dependent on where you go......also on how long they would takeSome who know what they are doing at a bespoke Triumph place would have it done and back together in no timeAt a `modern` establishment there will be a sucking of air between pursed lips and blowing of hot air trying to explain how difficult the job isSo 350 is bang out of order then :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Seeing as they wont know the state of everything until they have taken it apart, and you will expect them to fix anything subsequently if things go wrong. I can see that as being a valid price. (I did not say reasonable). Bear in mind the head may well need a "skim to clean".Two alternative options; take it to a Triumph specialist, who's used to these things or get a recon unleaded head and either get the garage to change it or DIY.Also, the fault can be in the top of the block. If that needs a skim the bottom end has to come out and have a strip down (ask me how I know ;) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 9598 wrote:So 350 is bang out of order then :-/As Richard says...Where in the country are you?Maybe we can advise?Dependent on which `type ` of garage you got the quoteIf its a local `modern` type of `whip it off and bang it on` then the price might reflect their overheadsIf its a basic quote ,and its a case of when the head is off...."ooooh I think you might need this doing as well"...then that`s where the bill starts to escalateIf you have not got a quote from a Triumph specialist ,then it would be advisable.....even for piece of mind..........if its driveable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 4 or 6 cylinder? Certainly makes a difference when grinding valves.TBH, unless the valve seating is suspect I'd leave them alone unless you know it's already had an unleaded conversion as grinding the valves in will certainly increase the risk of seat recession when running on unleaded without additives.Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorzee Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Manchester based, not a triumph specialist but the boy looking at the motor is older than me and I'm no spring chicken, says he was raised on these things, we'rent they all? :)The motor has not been converted to unleaded, however I've read and heard some musings that using the super unleaded fuels are near as damn it the same???I spent 350 last week, the guy I took it too then said he had tightened the fan belt as that was slack, put a bolt in the alternator as that was missing(causing slack belt) still overheated so he whipped the water pump off and replaced and all was hunky dory. 1/2 an hour later it was overheating and water coming from under the cap. Took it to this bloke, to be fair has been in contact all the way letting me know, and he says the water pump isn't circulating and this has probably caused head gasket to pop. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocita Rosso Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He still dos n`t sound very Triumph-wiseOverheating? Thermostat? Blocked rad? Blocked heater matrix?Not necessarily the pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don cook1 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Just got this quote today, company is in Suffolk. Seems cheap to me apart from 6 inlet valve guides. Grind crank £100.00Big end bearing 0.01 £15.08Main bearings 0.01 £14.89 Bore block £142.50Pistons 0.02 £122.66 Fit inlet valve guides £11.25Valve guides £50.40Face valves £50.40Cut seats £31.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 michael_charlton wrote:He still dos n`t sound very Triumph-wiseOverheating? Thermostat? Blocked rad? Blocked heater matrix?Not necessarily the pump ...air lock, after changing the water pumpsounds like you need a second opinion from someone with a little more, recent, Triumph experience.I also think £350 for changing a waterpump and tightening a fan belt is a bit on the expensive side. :-/"I spent 350 last week, the guy I took it too then said he had tightened the fan belt as that was slack, put a bolt in the alternator as that was missing(causing slack belt) still overheated so he whipped the water pump off and replaced and all was hunky dory. 1/2 an hour later it was overheating and water coming from under the cap." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nang Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 If the head isn't off yet, get a compression test done to eliminate most of this guess work. If compressions are down then you have reason to take the head off. If they're reasonable start looking at the cooling system.Tony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thescrapman Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 GT6_Don wrote:Just got this quote today, company is in Suffolk. Seems cheap to me apart from 6 inlet valve guides. Grind crank £100.00Big end bearing 0.01 £15.08Main bearings 0.01 £14.89 DonI would supply the bearings yourself, and supply them with a set of Tri-metal ones. Will cost a bit more...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennygoodman Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I would do a compression test first before asking a garage to grind the valve seats because you are opening a bag of worms when you tell them what you want done, go buy a compression tester off ebay and test each cylinder yourself, if they are ok you don't need your valves touching.As for the cylinder head gasket its not a £350 job, once you remove the studs which, as I learnt from the people on this forum, the head comes off easily, a quick clean up and replace everything, set your timing, job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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