PJM Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I think the reference to wire is the shape and size of the pit that is left. It looks as if a piece of wire could indeed fill the hole/crevasse. Exactly the same as exhaust gases removing material as the leak progresses. Manganesite would work well on cylinder heads that had pitting so I think it could be used on exhaust systems. Worth a try and the next time I need to replace my exhaust I shall try it. I think the trade name doesnt directly refer to the raw material and the two are not related so although I could be wrong (there's always a first time ;) ) but I don't think the amount available in China is relevant.The relevance to bodily functions and a good curry is purely co-incidental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 Thanks, Paul.I am taking the collector pipe to my local welder mate and will get him to do a similar job as Nick Jones has done (Thanks Nick) and will use BLOSEAL as the paste.However if all fails, I will attempt to use the stuff you recommend.Interesting info from everyone. Every problem we all encounter has always got an answer, marvellous things these Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 timbancroft61 wrote:I am taking the collector pipe to my local welder mate and will get him to do a similar job as Nick Jones has done (Thanks Nick) and will use BLOSEAL as the paste.Tim, before and after photos?Ps Woking Hoover has just acquired a second GT6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npanne Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Reviving this thread a little (although there seems to be a lot of discussion on this topic at the moment)..Does everyone find that it's the same pipe going into the 3-1 joint that blows? Mine (not yet fitted) looks very loose around the secondary that comes from bores 1 and 6, but the other one is quite tight - is this the norm?Do you reckon that I could get away with welding the loose pipe into the joint, and leaving the other two as slip joints? Would the lack of slip cause it to split, or am I likely to get away with it? I don't really fancy pulling it apart to reseal on a regular basis.CheersNeil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Neil,I've not noticed one being slacker than the others. Once it's bolted up the to engine it's unlikely to have perfect alignment (no matter how hard you try) anyway so the primaries won't sit centrally. Mine always seemed to blow in the middle but so far the extra clamps are working.......I wouldn't weld the collector - it's a big enough pain to get in and out as it is and anyway it will make it very hard to get the other two out if you do ever need to dismantle it.Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 I wonder if a felxible mount to the gearbox might assist? Maybe a mini bobbin type mount?I still have not got my welder mate to do the clamp fitments yet, been a bit busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Nick_Jones wrote:I wouldn't weld the collector - it's a big enough pain to get in and out as it is and anyway it will make it very hard to get the other two out if you do ever need to dismantle it.With my GT Mike-the-Pipe 6-3-1 exhaust I have to remove an engine mount and crowbar the block away from the chassis to fit/remove the exhaust! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npanne Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 timbancroft61 wrote:I wonder if a felxible mount to the gearbox might assist? Maybe a mini bobbin type mount?I still have not got my welder mate to do the clamp fitments yet, been a bit busy.Maybe - the system that I've just taken out (4 cylinder version of the stainless jobbie) had a mount there - took me ages to work out what it was that was preventing the engine from coming out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Richard_B wrote:With my GT Mike-the-Pipe 6-3-1 exhaust I have to remove an engine mount and crowbar the block away from the chassis to fit/remove the exhaust! :oThey are not without drawbacks then.... :PTim, if mounting to the gearbox it can be a solid mount and IMO, would be better as a solid mount. I have a solid mount on mine, right at the back of the gearbox (Toyota box is mounted differently). My next development (which will include some major changes to the manifold) will have one if those modern flexi-sections at that point.Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Nick did you try a large expansion box immediately after the collector? What was the impact on the engine/power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Yes (see pics) although I was never able extract confirmation that my interpretation was what my adviser had meant.... :-/It did make it quieter and it certainly had a gas flow effect as I had to fiddle with the mapping again afterwards (more fuelling in lower midrange) - I think more torque from 2500 ish upwards...... wasn't a huge difference.Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tryumf Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I had mine welded by a local specialist welder cost me £30 but I had the cylinder head off at the time so I bolted the manifold on and took the lot round so there was no mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Basically followed Nick's method-all seems fine, exhaust hanging of the car whilst I do the inlet/exhaust manifold cap heads up. However it now seems that the slots around the aperatures for the fixings are too tight and I cannot get the stud in by the no. 4 exhaust port! Therefore I have to take the manifold off and file it larger-oh joy!Oh well, so far this job has not been as bad as I expected!!!Also why are the exhaust manifold flanges deeper than that inlet manifold flanges-ah yes that'll be because otherwise they distort when cooling down leaving the faces uneven in relationship to each other-have the manufacturers ever fitted one of their manifolds to a car???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 timbancroft61 wrote:-have the manufacturers ever fitted one of their manifolds to a car????Seriously doubt it.... not recently anyway :-/ Glad you are making progress - not a fun job really is it?!Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Umm, fit a P****** 6>3>1 onto a GT6 or stick pins in my eyes?Think I'll go for the pins in the eyes-seems like a better way of spending a Sunday.To cap it all, fell over in the garage and have put a 1'' gash into my forehead-bit of a bleeder, blood everywhere!!! Oh well!Right gonna stay in this evening, have a beer and watch some telly-relatively safe-no doubt the sofa will collapse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Still you can say 'I've sweated blood for that GT6'! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6boy Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Sorry to hear of your travails Tim. Yes, the Phoenix items are taxing and to an extent for the money, disappointing but: it still made a positive impact on my cars performance when I fitted it. The 39 Steps looks good :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Still, just watched James Martin's exploits on the Mille Miglia, £850K-umm!Good to see a TR2 finish, considerably cheaper than Mr Martin's Maserati eh!Good old Triumph cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydP Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Looked more like a TR3 to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Bancroft Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 What was the cut off year of the Mille Miglia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydP Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 1957, Just had a look there were 7 TR2's and 1 TR3 so we might both be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotoflex Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 What causes pip in poultry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 :-/ Wrong board I think.....Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotoflex Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Whoops! How far is Winnipeg from Montreal, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard B Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 timbancroft61 wrote:Still, just watched James Martin's exploits on the Mille Miglia, £850K-umm!Did'nt see it, but someone told me about it, is that the one where he blew up the engine and could not complete.and then found a book in an Italian bookshop which listed his Maserati in the original race and that it had blown up on the same day in that race previously. ??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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