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I have found a way of relatively easily compiling car model success/completion rates on the 10CR which may have some influence, or at least some interest :P

So far I have data for 2003 and 2005 processed.

Keeping a minimum of 10 for the stats to have some relvance this is what I have so far.

55 total cars entered 51 finished = 92.7%
11 TR2-6 11 finished = 100%
12 2000/2500  11 finished = 91.7%

More to come when I have 2007's data ready

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Now with 2007's data included and a surprising (?) star reliability car ;)

101 cars entered - 88 finished - success rate 87%

14 GT6s entered - 14 finished -        success rate 100%
15 TR2-6 entered - 14 finished -        success rate 93%
13 Spitfires entered - 12 finished -     success rate 92%
11 TR7 - TR7V8 - 10 finished -           sucess rate 91%
20 2000/2500 entered - 16 finished - success rate 80%
18 Herald/Vitesse - 14 fnished          success rate 78%

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Raider wrote:
Now with 2007's data included and a surprising (?) star reliability car ;)

101 cars entered - 88 finished - success rate 87%

14 GT6 s entered - 14 finished -        success rate 100%
15 TR2-6 entered - 14 finished -        success rate 93%
13 Spitfires entered - 12 finished -     success rate 92%
11 TR7 - TR7V8 - 10 finished -           sucess rate 91%
20 2000/2500 entered - 16 finished - success rate 80%
18 Herald/Vitesse - 14 fnished          success rate 78%



Not all that suprising really  :P :P :P




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Raider wrote:
Now with 2007's data included and a surprising (?) star reliability car ;)

101 cars entered - 88 finished - success rate 87%

14 GT6 s entered - 14 finished -        success rate 100%
15 TR2-6 entered - 14 finished -        success rate 93%
13 Spitfires entered - 12 finished -     success rate 92%
11 TR7 - TR7V8 - 10 finished -           sucess rate 91%
20 2000/2500 entered - 16 finished - success rate 80%
18 Herald/Vitesse - 14 fnished          success rate 78%


The next most interesting breakdown would be the cause of failure for particular model, not for the entire populattion.
With the sample size being still a bit small at this time, it might not really be a good indicator of what to look at most closely, but would be good to watch.

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rotoflex wrote:

The next most interesting breakdown would be the cause of failure for particular model, not for the entire populattion.
With the sample size being still a bit small at this time, it might not really be a good indicator of what to look at most closely, but would be good to watch.


I will be able to do that in due course as my database includes the individual model. At the moment I am building reprts on 10CRs, RBRRs and the two combined as they are both long distance endurance events although with differing elements (temperature, rain, height above sea level, non-stop running etc).

I will in due course be able to look at causes of DNFs too.

So, in theory anyone could "select" the most reliable car to use for each event and what to focus on in particular during car prep or take as spares.

Or, for those more reliability challenged cars the main areas for improvement could be targeted and we can see if we can improve the reliability records.

At the moment the stats also include accidents which aren't a reliability factor so I am wondering about removing that element.

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Now with 2009's figures - so 2003,5,7,9.

148 cars entered, 133 finished so the success rate goes up to 89.9% (up from 87%).

GT6 16 entered 16 finished 100% success(clap)(clap)
TR2-6 22 entered 21 finished 95.4% success
TR7 - TR7V8  13 entered 12 finished 92.3% success
2000/2500 30 entered 27 finished 90% success rate
Herald/Vitesse 27 entered 23 finished 85.2% success rate
Spitfire 21 entered 17 finished 81% success

Conclusions? An engine size of minimum 2 litres and a 2 seater so you can't carry too much weight in spares and people ;D

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I have now completed analysis of every 10CR (2003-2011 inclusive).

The records I have show -

212 cars entered 190 completed 89.6% success

GT6 22 entered 22 finished 100% success(clap)(clap)
Stag 10 entered 10 finished 100% success(clap)(clap)
TR2-6 34 entered 32 finished 94.1% success
2000/2500 46 entered 41 finished 89.1% success
TR7-TR7V8 18 entered 16 finished 88.9% success
Herald/Vitesse 33 entered 28 finished 84.8% success
Dolomite/Toledo 12 entered 10 finished 83.3% success
Spitfire 29 entered 24 finished 82.8% success

Big engined sports cars still doing well - shame the TR7s have fallen down the order a bit :o

And who says Stags are unreliable :-/  Great result and a great car for a drive to the south of France and the Alps 8)

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MarkDeTriomphe wrote:
What happened to the big saloons in 2009?  

From 2003-7 - there were 4 non finishers then when 2009 added that number went down to 3  :-/  Did one come in (very) late?

Mark


Good question - I'll go back to the data and see if I can track down what happened there

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With advice for Spitfire owners first.

Of the 5 "failure to finish" 1 was down to an accident so not really a car issue anyway.

The other 4 were - 3 engine, 1 suspension.

The engine failures were 1300 engine big end failure, 1300 engine Headgasket and 1500 engine a dropped valve. Not much you can say about those, just hard work for smaller engines?

The suspension failure was a wheel bearing collapse.

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jcarruthers wrote:

Well in terms of engine it seems best to compare similar engines — Spitfire, Heralds and Dolomites that use the 4 cyl.

There's a difference in the weight of the car but the Spitfire should be the least stress as it's the lightest?


I think maybe it's the weight of the drivers foot that needs to be accounted for  ;)

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jcarruthers wrote:
Well in terms of engine it seems best to compare similar engines — Spitfire, Heralds and Dolomites that use the 4 cyl.

There's a difference in the weight of the car but the Spitfire should be the least stress as it's the lightest?


OK, now done that and there are Sptifires,Heralds,and a lone Dolomite 1500.

Results are (excluding accidents) 7 failures, 4 engine, 1 transmission,1 suspension and 1 not known.

The engine failures are
1300 - 1 x Headgasket and 1 x big end failure
1500 - 1 x Headgasket failure and 1 x dropped valve

Not really enough to go on there other than as I suggested, maybe the event is tough for smaller engined cars.

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