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Dont no if you ladds have used it or not, but on way back doon south use the olde road.
from Abingdon in Scotland,  go on the olde road, A 702 Abingdon, J 13 on  A / M74,  then the B 7076.
it runs next to the M Way most of the time, is a very wide road, long sweeping bends and totally free of traffic most of the time.
just some local stuff,  and some wagon depots, but they go onto M Way in aboot 1/4 mile                     and is as quick a route as the M Way !!!

I always use it going up ,and doon, fantastic road, and if that way inclined, will fetch ye oot at Carlisle,
with a short stint, a mile or so thru Gretna.

try it, you,ll love it, look on Google maps, zoom in, its there, a hidden gem it is.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Moffat,+Dumfries+and+Galloway+DG10/@55.4499901,-3.6475323,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x487d4ddafd1799d7:0x50d64f52cc01614

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Good intentions, I know Marcus, but the whole exercise of RBR is to follow the road book
Similar situation, whereby some say...I`ll leave the Plough and go straight up the A1 to Blyth .....instead of the road book instructions of ..up the A10,..... its quicker.
That`s not the object.....Follow the road book or you have not done the RBR

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As clearly stated in the road book " both the route and timings are optional and advisory" Therefore it's within the rules to follow a different route to complete (or "do") the RBRR. Having said that the Roadbook is a proven route to meet the timings and provides some great driving roads. What Marcus is suggestting though is probably a more interesting driving road following a similar route on a boring Motorway section and if people want to try it they can, but obviously the RBRR organisers can't be held responsible if it proves unsuitable or leads to being late at the next control so it's at the teams own risk...

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Completing the RBRR is getting a full set of signatures in the road book - the route is optional. The timings are governed by when the control stops are open - if you arrive outside those opening times then you won't get a signature - ergo you won't complete the RBRR.
You can take whatever route you like and complete the RBRR but if you miss out parts of the route, take short cuts or just whack in "fastest route" to your TomTom every time then you will miss out on the whole atmosphere and camaraderie of the run. Seeing other club cars on the road, overtaking and being over taken by them is great.
If you want to take a different route then you don't need permission, just do it but think what you'll miss and, should the worst happen and you have a breakdown, you will not get picked up by any helpful Triumphs because they will all be on the official route :-) The official route has been carefully selected but we're not going to nanny everyone, you're big boys and can play where you want, just don't expect any help if you get an ouch or a boo boo  8)

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i don't think anyone has any isssue with someone  plotting  a quicker/easier route to the next control..have done it on occasion , when we've had to pop back to stirling to pick up fellow entrants from hospital, or played a bit of catch up after a break down you will, as stated by others, miss out on the RBRR experience.the route is a good one and worth doing . we only ever cut and run to get back on time so we can rejoin the spirit of the event

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Jason wrote:
Completing the RBRR is getting a full set of signatures in the road book - the route is optional.
If you want to take a different route then you don't need permission, just do it



Do you have to "give a route" to get the msa permit, if not then why bother applying for the permit.
If you have to have the permit,are we breaking any rules by not all going by the official route that the permit was issued against
Just a thought  :X

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As a previous organiser and particioant, this whole discussion gives me the willies. I agree with Jason. If you don't feel able to join in this iconic and magnificent event, the oldest and best in the Triumph calendar, then go and drive round on your preferred route on another weekemd. Otherwise follow the road book which has been proven to work over many years. Carry your satnav for an emergency if you must. This is a Club event!

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