Matt306 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Have a look at my steering wheel and the amount of free play at the wheel. Is this normal. I have replaced the steering rack, the Track rod ends are new, (300miles) the knuckle joint i have replaced with a UJ as it is meant to be an improvement.Any thoughts greatly appreciated.https://youtu.be/1Q6FuQpBE5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMPUS Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Don't know if it's the same on a Herald as a spitfire .. But isn't there a clamp on the bottom, so if you have an accident the bolts brakes and you 'normally' don't have a steering wheel through your face ? If that would be loos , that would give you a wobble steering and you can also pull the shaft in and out.I'm not sure if it's the same on a Herald, but found this diagram .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt306 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hmm thanks for the reply... which bit are you looking at on that diagram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt306 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 Item 10 in this picture ?http://www.canleyclassics.com/triumph-herald-13/60-steering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 See circled area. This is found on the column inside the car between the end of the column housing and the bulkhead and is a U bracket with a thick plate that bolts across it. This thick plate has a grub screw and locknut in its centre which is factory set to grip the column tightly enough to prevent freeplay but loose enough to allow the solid bar (lower column) to slide through it and telescope into the hollow upper column in the event of impact. Checking the 2 1/4" UNF bolts holding the plate to the U bracket and tightening if needed should be all that is necessary, but if they are tight and rotational play can be felt at this point you will need to revisit the setting of the centre grubscrew. There is a specific procedure for this which needs to be followed if the column is to stand a chance of collapsing as intended.More likely the play is elsewhere but worth checkingNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt306 Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share Posted October 18, 2015 The bottom half moves the same as the top half. The screw is present and correct! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldcoupe Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Looks like the articulated joint isn't secured either to the column or to the rack,Cheers,Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt306 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Going back to the original parts pic is the clamp meant to be fitted in a particular fashion. Mine appear to be the other way around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny-Jimbo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Yes, if you look at the bottom of your inner and outer column you'll see two flats cut into them that need to line up when the clamp is fitted. I've seen a few cars where the clamp was attached but the inner and outer column flats weren't lined up so there was a lot of slop in the column. Also, don't assume when fitting the clamp that the clamp will pull them level with each other. There is a very good chance they'll just pinch the column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 As well as the things mentionee,d the biggest culprit is the bottom Uni.some times the rubbers go awol, creating free play, but also the bolts come loose, this also creates free play.there 2 bolts tha go thru the uni, clamping it to a spline, when ones slack it moves, when 2s slack, it moves even moer,go an ev a ratch aboot in that areathey 1/2 spanner, and must move rack about to just the right spot, to be able to git spanners onRingo,s are best.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esxefi Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Quoted from GT6 M Ringo,s are best.M I heard paul mccartney has them at the mo doing some bushes on his allegro...I've got me coat .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt306 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Quoted from GT6 M As well as the things mentionee,d the biggest culprit is the bottom Uni.some times the rubbers go awol, creating free play, but also the bolts come loose, this also creates free play.there 2 bolts tha go thru the uni, clamping it to a spline, when ones slack it moves, when 2s slack, it moves even moer,go an ev a ratch aboot in that areathey 1/2 spanner, and must move rack about to just the right spot, to be able to git spanners onRingo,s are best.M I replaced mine with a different type of UJ to get rid of the rubber problems.Your diff cured my noise problem though cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody47uk Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Looking at your video I think that , as you can move the steering wheel easily fore and aft, that either the wheel is loose on its splines, or you have not fitted or tightened correctly, the sliding clamp at the base of the column inside the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt306 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 I have been down to the UJ joint and tightened the nuts a few more turns and it seems to have taken up a bit of slack certainly no more back and forth movement! I dont the the column clamp is on properly though as the stepped edge is out not in to the column. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT6 M Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I have been down to the UJ joint and tightened the nuts a few more turns and it seems to have taken up a bit of slack certainly no more back and forth movement! Telt ye where to powk aboot, 😉good to hear diffs ok.M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herald948 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Quoted from pigboy306 I replaced mine with a different type of UJ to get rid of the rubber problems. I replaced the original, 48-year-old rubber "washers" on mine to get rid of the (deteriorated original) rubber problems! 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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